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    Posted: 01-Aug-2011 at 06:12
Originally posted by Knights

Dolphin: The Aurochs has size on its side, does it not? Horn size would be close between it and a bull African Buffalo...I'd go with the Aurochs.

Ikki: Jaguar would win - it has the mass and strength advantage over the Leopard.

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Hmm... I am not sure about that... from my understanding... leopards are the only big cats that drag their food up into the trees... leopards are extremely powerful...
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Yes that is certainly a sever disadvantage for the spider. But they can run so fast!

I heard today, that if you pour a circle of flammable liquid around a scorpion then set it alight, the scorpion will voluntarily arc its sting over and commit suicide by injecting itself with venom. I wonder what the reliability of this claim is? Firstly, would it really know that it is doomed, and just, commit suicide? And also, are they not immune to their own venom? Ideas? I think it could have some merit, but I'll investigate to see if it stacks up to the facts.

@ Arrgh - when the heck would they ever meet!?! Haha for the sake of the thread...Anaconda all the way. Those clubhooks would be no match for the constrictor. Big smile

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Nope, urban legend. The scorpion only appears to sting itself while it dies due to exposure to the radiating heat from the fire.
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  Quote Beefheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Aug-2011 at 05:47
Originally posted by Jallaludin Akbar

The water buffalo would win because it is larger, WOW those hornes are huge! 

Fattail Scorpion


vs. Camel Spider


i really can't choose! but i like camel spider more



Yellow Fat-Tail Scorpion (Androctonus australis hector), one of the deadliest scorpions in the world causes more human deaths in North Africa and the Middle East than any other scorpion in these regions. However, the mortalities almost entirely consist of children, those with compromised immune systems, and the elderly.



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Giant Egyptian Camel Spider (Galeodes arabs).  Possesses 4 macerating chelicerae that allows it to catch and trap relatively large prey including vertebrates (small lizards, snakes, and rodents) and literally works these two pair of diametrically opposing crushing jaws with chainsaw efficiency.

 

Now fight-box strategies:

The Fat-tail Scorpion must use it's paralizing sting on the Camel Spider's soft body parts. Which isn't too difficult considering most of the Camel Spider is very soft.

The Camel Spider must go to work with those crushing and sawing cheli quickly. While avoiding the deadly sting either by incapacitating the tail itself or simply batting the tail away and keeping the formidable sting away from it's soft body parts. The latter will be an easier task if there is a decisive size difference to the Camel Spider's advantage.


Here the Camel Spiders wins, BUT please note the difference in sizes!!!









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Will send you vipers on my next walk around the hills!
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Will send you vipers on my next walk around the hills!
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  Quote Galleon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Apr-2011 at 18:06
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Shocked I could never eat a reptile, even though desert lizards are a delicacy among some in the region. I guess it's their hypnotizing, beady eyes that get me.
 
 
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  Quote Arab Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Apr-2011 at 20:32
Shocked I could never eat a reptile, even though desert lizards are a delicacy among some in the region. I guess it's their hypnotizing, beady eyes that get me.
 
 
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Apr-2011 at 19:42
Well for me..I just generally eat snakes and don't worry to much about which is toughter then another.
 
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  Quote Arab Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Apr-2011 at 19:06
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Anaconda
 
 
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Regular Snake
 
 
Would that "regular snake" be a venomous one? If not, there is no contest. Welcome to the forum by the way!
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Anaconda
 
 
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Male gaurs are known to grow 2.2metres tall at shoulders and weigh over 1500Kg

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  Quote BoomBaby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2010 at 10:16
The bigger the scorpion the less venom. And the camel spide is much much faster and stronger.
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  Quote KenyaFlyer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Dec-2009 at 22:52
It's true.  I've seen it done several times.
We caught small scorpions (4cm body).  Then we made a ring of twigs about 30 cm in diameter.  After pouring a small amount of kerosene on the twigs and lighting the ring on fire, we dumped the scorpion into the middle.  The scorpion made a couple of tries to get out of the ring, then stung itself in the head and died.  It happened very fast.
We recorded it on a phone camera and could see the scorpion sting itself twice.  It rolled over immediately and was dead. 
The fire was not big enough to kill the scorpion if it had stayed put in the middle.
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Another interesting one might be Polar bear vs. Saltwater crocodile. Either one can kill a human without thinking twice, both are extremely big and well-armored...
 
If the fight were to take place in the waters polar bears usually swim in, the crocodile would soon be immobilized because the low temerature of  the water.
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  Quote Carcharodon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2009 at 13:38
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A Siberian Tiger would have no problem against a Leopard. And a Gorilla would certainly beat an Orang - possibly even a female Gorilla. However one blow from a male Orang could be lethal because they are so incredibly strong. I have been in the situation where 8 people were needed to make a fair tug of war game against Jantan, a male Orang at the zoo. 
 
Not long ago an animal ceeper was seriously injured by a male orangutang in a zoo here in Sweden. Among other things the animal nearly ripped of the ceepers foot.
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  Quote Carcharodon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-May-2009 at 13:34
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Regarding the Lion vs. Tiger issue - here's a site I came across. It's a very interesting read, and he makes a sound conclusion in the end in my opinion.

http://indrajit.wordpress.com/category/lion-vs-tiger/
 
Sometimes a meeting between a lion and a tiger can end like this:
 
A Chinese zoologist has captured a picture of a tiger mating with a lioness. Zhao Yunhua took the rare photograph in Shenzhen Safari Park /Lu Feng
 
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  Quote TheARRGH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Apr-2009 at 00:14
That depends a great deal on who the human is.

A red kangaroo is NOT a cuddly widdle fuzzy aminal. If it kicks you squarely, you are probably going to be on the ground sucking wind. It will punch, and while a male red kangaroo is shorter than the average human, they're quite strong--and they can weight up to 185 pounds, plenty of which is muscle. There's no guarantee an adult human male will even be in the same weight category as the kangaroo. MMA trainers would not approve...Tongue

So, it depends on the human. We're a remarkably varied species, and since we have such vastly different lifestyles and skill sets, "adult male" doesn't really say much.

With combat training, motivation, and significantly above-average physical ability, an adult human male could probably overpower a red Kangaroo...especially since, when fighting EACH OTHER at least, male Red Kangaroos tend to hold off on kicking each other until the fight really escalates...humans are generally under no such behavioral restriction. However, obviously, that's largely when fighting each other. No telling how a kangaroo would react when facing off against some weirdly tall, oddly unfurred creature with opposable thumbs and no tail worth speaking of.
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  Quote Knights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Apr-2009 at 23:40
I agree. After a bit of searching also, it seems that scorpions don't intentionally commit suicide in this situation. Rather, being (ironically) incredibly susceptible to direct heat, they go completely mental and flail about their tails. In doing this there is a chance of striking itself, but even then, a far greater dose of its own poison is required to kill a scorpion, thanks to a degree of immunity.


Anyway, another ridiculous hypothetical animal face-off, people?

Male Red Kangaroo vs. Human

Note: Human is a regular male, unarmed.
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  Quote TheARRGH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Feb-2009 at 16:58
Originally posted by Jams

It really sounds like an urban legend. Some Sorpions have weak poison, so I can't see how it can be true. And as you say, I also doubt that the scorpion would have any idea about what's going on.


Some, not all. And it doesn't necessarily take that much brainpower to know that one is about to die.

Still, you're right--it's hard to believe.
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