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    Posted: 28-Mar-2015 at 17:25

Evidently you must of missed the memo that lions have killed tigers more than vice versa in captivity over 50+ times:

 
You must of not known that in the wild the only one is documented winning is the asiatic lion, that the lion has the bigger skull, harder bite force, and stronger strikes:
 
That leopards and bears have been known to kill bengal tigers:
 
The size advantage you speak of is non-existant, even a 1,000 lb tiger lost to a smaller lion, a lion is capable of killing bears who dwarf any tiger in existance: 
 
The lion has almost every advantage over the tiger via:

- Taller at the shoulder with longer, heavier front limbs (is the tallest living panthera species)
- Heavier on average (as a species majority near twice the weight)
- More muscle mass (has the record of the most skeletal muscle percent of all mammals)
- Has a much stronger striking force (has the record for the strongest predators paw blow)
- Has a stronger bite force (has the record for most powerful bite of all mammals 1,250 psi)
- The lion has a protecting factor, the tiger doesnt (known for the only big cat to have one)
- Is a more practiced and skiled fighter month to month (is the only who can consistantly via prides)
- Hunts bigger animals (giant elands, buffalo, hippos, giraffes rhinos, elephants)
 
Proven with facts from Phd biologist and zoologist, head animal keepers from circuses, zoos and sanctuarys, animal tamers and animal trainers all unanimously in favor of the lion...in your case, you havnt seen a tiger or lion in your entire life, listining to eye of the tiger does not mean you have a Phd on subject, cite the proper sources to your claims who do, other wise you're argument is nothing more than bias lies.
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Good Analysis buddy, My bet stays with Tigers as well. Lions are more accustomed to their pride (pack) hunting and fighting style. Even on a hunt a Tiger always works alone, and yet large Water Buffalo (much larger than African Buffalo), Rhinos, and Elephants are on a Tiger's menu.

Tigers successfully taking on a Buffalo is too much for a Lion which fails more often, even as a pack.

Tigers are also naturally aggressive (*far more than Lions). I will always put my bet on Tigers, for their size, strength and aggressive attitude.
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Originally posted by xi_tujue

Lion whoot

it's bigger eventhough the Tiger is more aggile depends on the surrounding i think


By all means a Tiger is bigger and weighs more than a Lion.
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Originally posted by Knights

Dolphin: The Aurochs has size on its side, does it not? Horn size would be close between it and a bull African Buffalo...I'd go with the Aurochs.

Ikki: Jaguar would win - it has the mass and strength advantage over the Leopard.

Just my thoughts...


Hmm... I am not sure about that... from my understanding... leopards are the only big cats that drag their food up into the trees... leopards are extremely powerful...
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Originally posted by Knights

Yes that is certainly a sever disadvantage for the spider. But they can run so fast!

I heard today, that if you pour a circle of flammable liquid around a scorpion then set it alight, the scorpion will voluntarily arc its sting over and commit suicide by injecting itself with venom. I wonder what the reliability of this claim is? Firstly, would it really know that it is doomed, and just, commit suicide? And also, are they not immune to their own venom? Ideas? I think it could have some merit, but I'll investigate to see if it stacks up to the facts.

@ Arrgh - when the heck would they ever meet!?! Haha for the sake of the thread...Anaconda all the way. Those clubhooks would be no match for the constrictor. Big smile

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Nope, urban legend. The scorpion only appears to sting itself while it dies due to exposure to the radiating heat from the fire.
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Originally posted by Jallaludin Akbar

The water buffalo would win because it is larger, WOW those hornes are huge! 

Fattail Scorpion


vs. Camel Spider


i really can't choose! but i like camel spider more



Yellow Fat-Tail Scorpion (Androctonus australis hector), one of the deadliest scorpions in the world causes more human deaths in North Africa and the Middle East than any other scorpion in these regions. However, the mortalities almost entirely consist of children, those with compromised immune systems, and the elderly.



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Giant Egyptian Camel Spider (Galeodes arabs).  Possesses 4 macerating chelicerae that allows it to catch and trap relatively large prey including vertebrates (small lizards, snakes, and rodents) and literally works these two pair of diametrically opposing crushing jaws with chainsaw efficiency.

 

Now fight-box strategies:

The Fat-tail Scorpion must use it's paralizing sting on the Camel Spider's soft body parts. Which isn't too difficult considering most of the Camel Spider is very soft.

The Camel Spider must go to work with those crushing and sawing cheli quickly. While avoiding the deadly sting either by incapacitating the tail itself or simply batting the tail away and keeping the formidable sting away from it's soft body parts. The latter will be an easier task if there is a decisive size difference to the Camel Spider's advantage.


Here the Camel Spiders wins, BUT please note the difference in sizes!!!









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Originally posted by Arab

Shocked I could never eat a reptile, even though desert lizards are a delicacy among some in the region. I guess it's their hypnotizing, beady eyes that get me.
 
 
Uhhh...Yikes! That's looks delicious to me.EmbarrassedLOL
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Shocked I could never eat a reptile, even though desert lizards are a delicacy among some in the region. I guess it's their hypnotizing, beady eyes that get me.
 
 
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Well for me..I just generally eat snakes and don't worry to much about which is toughter then another.
 
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Originally posted by AbsoluteZero

Anaconda
 
 
vs
 
Regular Snake
 
 
Would that "regular snake" be a venomous one? If not, there is no contest. Welcome to the forum by the way!
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Anaconda
 
 
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Regular Snake
 
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Male gaurs are known to grow 2.2metres tall at shoulders and weigh over 1500Kg
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The bigger the scorpion the less venom. And the camel spide is much much faster and stronger.
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It's true.  I've seen it done several times.
We caught small scorpions (4cm body).  Then we made a ring of twigs about 30 cm in diameter.  After pouring a small amount of kerosene on the twigs and lighting the ring on fire, we dumped the scorpion into the middle.  The scorpion made a couple of tries to get out of the ring, then stung itself in the head and died.  It happened very fast.
We recorded it on a phone camera and could see the scorpion sting itself twice.  It rolled over immediately and was dead. 
The fire was not big enough to kill the scorpion if it had stayed put in the middle.
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Originally posted by TheARRGH

Another interesting one might be Polar bear vs. Saltwater crocodile. Either one can kill a human without thinking twice, both are extremely big and well-armored...
 
If the fight were to take place in the waters polar bears usually swim in, the crocodile would soon be immobilized because the low temerature of  the water.
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Originally posted by Knights

A Siberian Tiger would have no problem against a Leopard. And a Gorilla would certainly beat an Orang - possibly even a female Gorilla. However one blow from a male Orang could be lethal because they are so incredibly strong. I have been in the situation where 8 people were needed to make a fair tug of war game against Jantan, a male Orang at the zoo. 
 
Not long ago an animal ceeper was seriously injured by a male orangutang in a zoo here in Sweden. Among other things the animal nearly ripped of the ceepers foot.
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Originally posted by Knights

Regarding the Lion vs. Tiger issue - here's a site I came across. It's a very interesting read, and he makes a sound conclusion in the end in my opinion.

http://indrajit.wordpress.com/category/lion-vs-tiger/
 
Sometimes a meeting between a lion and a tiger can end like this:
 
A Chinese zoologist has captured a picture of a tiger mating with a lioness. Zhao Yunhua took the rare photograph in Shenzhen Safari Park /Lu Feng
 
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