Europeans, Americans fret over China's rise

Originally posted by Dream208 Temujin:     Have you seem any death chamber in the autonomous region? Havn't you chatted with Chinese forumer in this very forum? Have you got some trouble when tried to travel to mainland China? Have you seem PRC invaded any other country's soverignty since 80s?

most of the Chinese here live in the US, Australia and Singapure and so on. i used to be in Shanghai in 2003 and even though i didn't really had any trouble but i never had the feeling i was really welcome either by the majority, sometimes in shops i heard insults even though i didn't understood them the other people of the shop said to him he should shut up because we talked to her in Chinese, so it was obviously not something nice but actually i had also more than one nice conversation with shop owners. ok, China hasn't been agressive since the 80s, but they still hold on to those territories stolen back then and colonize it with ehtnic Hans to turn the natives into a minority. also, i have no problem with the population, but with the government.

Temujin:

    Have you seem any death chamber in the autonomous region? Havn't you chatted with Chinese forumer in this very forum? Have you got some trouble when tried to travel to mainland China? Have you seem PRC invaded any other country's soverignty since 80s?

Temujin:

    I can understand people calling CCP during 60s to 70s as evil, but I can not understand people comparing 90s-2000s PRC with 3rd Reich. From 1989 on ward, we see a China that is continuing open to consumerism, cultural development, and more importantly globalization. In the past two years, even the private-ownership has raised out of surface and became a focus of reform.

    I did not see a China that retrenched to the extreme nationalism, irrational dicatorship, close-door policy, or systematic racism. One could argue that current PRC is not really expansionist and militant in nature judging by its adherence to non-interference attitude  in the international  policy recently.  (one might bring up ROC as counter example, but in all seriously, right now ROC is the provoker in the Cross-Strait relationship, not PRC.)

    That all being said, investment in mainland China is still risky, but not because (or solely due to) the government abuse. It is more to due the widespread local corruption, still fuzzy legal system on property right, and a stock-market that is a casino in disguise. Though we see PRC began to address aforementioned problems, it probably will take years to achieve significant degree of changes. 


Edited by Dream208 - 09-Dec-2007 at 20:43

WHich is why England is attracting the most investment in Europe.

like i say many times nations mainly fall from within these days not from without, take zimbabwe and the philipines as examples, as long as stability exists no country need worry too much.

Originally posted by Sparten By Europe I mean the W and C Europe. The heavily regulated markets of Germany and France make investments unattractive in the sence that overheads are huge and the gain is less. Britrain dose not suffer from this, at least since the "milk snatcher" years.

we get shed loads of external investment too, i think we are third in the world or there abouts.

europes fine.

bhutan has my vote, god bless em

pinguin:

I have always respected your knowledge on Latin American. But to say "West" always win since "800BC" is simply stretching too far.

"Freedom" cuts both ways. China is an exciting place to invest, Europe is downright scary and the US. Every doller becomes a political issue.