In Presidential Elections, A Dark Horse is rising

Originally posted by eaglecap Originally posted by es_bih So you agree that Israel should be given more territory? NO!

You didn't specify. He obviously stands for a lot of various issues.

Originally posted by Al Jassas Well eaglecap, you should read my link above to see what the founding fathers really thought about the nature of the United states. in the treaties with the Barbary pirates they clearly identified the US as a secular country with no religion. here is the link again: � http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/diplomacy/barbary/barmenu.htm � Al-Jassas

There are a lot of links on this so could you please pin point it. I grew up with American history and all you have to do is take a tour of our capital to see the Christian influences. America is secular when it comes to seperation of church and state but the religion which has had the most influence on our nation is Christianity. There are revisionist historian on the liberal left side who would make you think different.
This treaty might state this but it does not change our history. This portion of the treaty might simply mean we do not have a state run church such as the church of England etc. I know you cannot seperate religion from politics in an Islamic (sharia law) country so maybe they were clarifying this- seperation of church and state (USA).

by the way, the more I read about Hucklebee the less I like him.

So far I like Ron Paul's foreign policy... I do not know much of his domestic policies as of yet.

all you have to do is take a tour of our capital to see the Christian influences.

Actually, a tour to the capital will show the Greco-Roman and Masonic influence.

Are we then a Greco-Roman Masonic country?

Originally posted by hugoestr all you have to do is take a tour of our capital to see the Christian influences. Actually, a tour to the capital will show the Greco-Roman and Masonic influence. Are we then a Greco-Roman Masonic country?

Alongside a copy of the Qu'ran and a statue of Muhammed


I do not see the founding fathers being aware of founding a "Christian" nation. There is a good book on the founding fathers, Founding Brothers I believe is the title, and you do not get a Christian feel from it. Christianity was the overall major religion, but the majority of the founding fathers were clearly deists.

Well let us not forget that the fairness doctrine was introduced, like many other things, by conservatives back when the liberal media had prominance nationwide. 

Romeny sounds similar to Rudy. He changes his stances, he does not provide a sound campaign stand either. From what I have seen from him he is very unsure. He renounces former beliefs and policies.

Huckabee freed the rapist not out of mercy, but because it had become a cause among some fringe conservatives. The rapist had raped a distance relative of Clinton.

Can you prove that accusation that the conservatives let the rapist go because "He gave them Clintons what those dirty liberal scum deserve"? Otherwise it sounds as horrible as the made up quote I just gave, and is useless in actually determining the reasons for doing so.

And even if he wasn't doing it as a political vendetta, why did he let go a dangerous rapist when the victims made it very clear that he was still dangerous?

Many relatives of victims don't ever want to see the criminal free because they either don't want to face the fact that the person responsible for the crime is free (petty in my opinion) or because they believe that he hasn't gotten what he deserves (which isn't up to them to decide).

Huckabee should have taken their council into account, as he probably did. The fact of the matter is though, while in prison the man had a spotless record and demonstrated that he could be rehabilitated. Was he? No. But if Huckabee and any other Governer never took a chance like that, then we might as well just execute every person that goes through the prison system because obviously if the victims families are unwilling to forgive they shouldn't have a chance to redeem themselves.

Again what the rapists did after he was set free is irrelevant since Huckabee does not have the power to see into the future.

And now he is not even taking responsibility for his actions. He is blaming, what else when you are a Republican? Bill Clinton!!??

Huh? Explain please? Where/When did he do this?

Clemency Happy Huckabee, if you knew him or were famous

"Prosecutors say Huckabee was more inclined to release or reduce the sentences of prisoners if he had direct contact with them or was lobbied by those close to him.

Some inmates who benefited from some sort of personal connection:

-James Maxwell, who killed a pastor of the Church of God in Arkansas. Maxwell worked at the Governor's Mansion when Huckabee announced his intent to reduce his prison sentence.

-Samuel W. Taylor, convicted on a drug charge. A prosecutor said the man had told him Taylor's sister had gone to school with Huckabee. Huckabee said the sister didn't influence the decision. Taylor subsequently was arrested on another drug charge.

-Donald W. Clark, convicted of theft. Huckabee's pastor recommended leniency for Clark, whose stepmother worked on Huckabee's gubernatorial staff.

-Robert A. Arnold Jr., who was convicted of killing his father-in-law. Arnold's father, a former mayor of Hope, Huckabee's hometown, said he was a casual friend of the governor.

-A pastor who promoted Huckabee among blacks urged the governor to grant clemency to John Henry Claiborne, who was sentenced to 100 years for a 1994 armed robbery, according to a 2004 report in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. Huckabee made Claiborne eligible for parole after receiving a letter from the Rev. Charles Williams, who told the newspaper he had helped win "many, many" clemencies from Huckabee."
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Edited by hugoestr - 10-Dec-2007 at 22:19

There seems to be some problems with the links.

This is the link for the second story. Copy and paste it:

http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/397089.html

I will have to find the other one again :)