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    Posted: 01-Mar-2005 at 11:07

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  Quote Capt. Lubber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Mar-2005 at 16:32
Those are some nice pictures, especially like the Kandovan ones. Do people actually live there?
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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Mar-2005 at 17:04
Nice pics
We have real extremes when it comes to the state of Washington, depending on which side of the state you are on.

Rain forest on the west side: Olympic Mtns.




I have backpacked in the Olympic National Park


Eastern Washington desert: NE is forest!





Juniper Dunes wilderness area- I have been here as well!!

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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Mar-2005 at 17:33
Originally posted by Capt. Lubber

Those are some nice pictures, especially like the Kandovan ones. Do people actually live there?

Where there's laundry there is people.
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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2005 at 07:37

Yes people live there, from the ancient times.

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that stuff is pretty cool there cyrus
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2005 at 10:24
These people looked very "Turkish" to me. Is the guy in the first pic playing "saz"?
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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2005 at 12:41
Is it not true that the Turks in present day Turkey are a whole blend of ethnic groups and not really Turkic anymore.
Who knows what is in my German, Dutch, French, English, Irish, Native American blend- America is fast becoming a blend of various races and ethnic groups.
Although, I still stand by the belief that the primary language in the U.S. should be English!!!
We need a common lanuage and a second language to glue us together but also help us survive in the global market.
English and Spanish!!
I wish I could remember the exact title but I read a real interesting book about the rise and fall of the Ottoman Empire!!
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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2005 at 13:28

Originally posted by Oguzoglu

These people looked very "Turkish" to me. Is the guy in the first pic playing "saz"?

They speak Turkish but they are Azeris, Saz means "Musical Instrument" in Persian, there are three types of "saz" in that pic.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2005 at 13:45

I know Turks arent original Turks today, also Europeans arent original Europeans, Persians arent original Persians at all... I meant that these guys looked Turkic by looking their culture... But today, Turkic people and Iranian people have lots of things in common as a result of a thousand years, and even more than a thousand years of migrations, mixing and sharing...

Also it is interesting that "saz" word is also used in Turkish instead of "kopuz", which is a very old Turkic instuerment from nomadic times of central asia. But when Iranians met Turks, they adapted "kopuz" into "saz" and formed a new insturment.

I cant define it clearly but I think the other men are playing "tef" and "zurna"...



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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2005 at 14:42

I cant define it clearly but I think the other men are playing "tef" and "zurna"...

One of them is playing a type of ney (flute), maybe "Surney" but the other thing is obviously "tambourine" Turkish "tef", Arabic "Daf", Persian "Dap", Aramaic Dup and Sumerian "Dub".

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  Quote Turk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2005 at 15:20
Originally posted by eaglecap

Is it not true that the Turks in present day Turkey are a whole blend of ethnic groups and not really Turkic anymore.
Who knows what is in my German, Dutch, French, English, Irish, Native American blend- America is fast becoming a blend of various races and ethnic groups.
Although, I still stand by the belief that the primary language in the U.S. should be English!!!
We need a common lanuage and a second language to glue us together but also help us survive in the global market.
English and Spanish!!
I wish I could remember the exact title but I read a real interesting book about the rise and fall of the Ottoman Empire!!


What are you bambling about? Write coherently...

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I don't think Turkey has desert terrain but there's plenty of mountains in every region, and steppes in the central and east parts.



 

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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Mar-2005 at 16:53
Excuse me, I was in a rush when I wrote it but I have researched Byzantine and Ottoman history and I was merely saying the whole region is a blend of ethnic groups. America is a new nation and already there is a whole blend of ethnic groups. Over the centuries the Turkic tribes came in contact with a whole variety of ethnic groups. The Turk above commented about the appearance of the Iranians, so I was just trying to pass on a rational reason.
The pics are beautiful! I did not realize that Turkey could be so lush. What time of year were these pictures taken? I assume in the spring!
Are you an American or a recent immigrant in the U.S.? Are you a student?
I would love to tour Turkey but I am not so comfortable with the attitudes towards American! How safe is it for Americans to travel in Turkey?



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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Mar-2005 at 03:21

It is interesting that a large part of Iran is desert and almost one quarter of Iran's population are Turkish-speaking people but they rarely live in the desert cities.

One of the other regions that they live is the Golestan province in the north east of Iran:

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  Quote Alparslan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Mar-2005 at 07:42

Originally posted by eaglecap

I would love to tour Turkey but I am not so comfortable with the attitudes towards American! How safe is it for Americans to travel in Turkey?

You will not have any problem. There is not a hostile attitude towards Americans. There is only an opposition to state policy of America but there is also an opposition in US itself too..... There are hundred thousands of American tourists visiting Turkey every year.

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What time of year were these pictures taken? I assume in the spring!
 

In Turkey there is not desert but I realised that usually it is thought that Turks are living in deserts. I do not know why? I will open a thread about "landscape of your country" in AE tavern.

This picture belongs to Blacksea Region which is filled with forests and green all the time of the year. It is rainy during year. Landscape is usually like this.

 

If you want to make a good holiday instead of a long journey you can try places around Antalya in southern part of Anatolia. Wonderful nature, wonderful sea, best holiday villages (I guess one of the bests of Europe), enormous history and all sorts activities with tracking, rafting etc. Here you are some pictures along with nature around there.  


 

 



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  Quote Kuu-ukko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Mar-2005 at 08:14
I am actually surprised that Iran has humid-looking forests. I thought there was mainly carniferous forests and desert...... lovely pictures BTW 
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Mar-2005 at 10:05

I agree with Alparslan. The landscape image of Turkey seems to be desert around the world, but this is totally a wrong knowledge. Most of the coastern cities and even the inner cities are green and beautiful. All the black sea coasts are full of forests, and Marmar area is too. But the destruction of lots of worthful forests of Turkey by some incendiaries and ignorant citizens may cause such a desert image in some parts of these forests.

Deserts dont exist in Turkey at all. It they existed, why would the most developed civilizations of history would always fight to own and rule these lands (Anatolia)?

But these facts are not for very eastern and southeastern regions of Turkey. There are no real deserts there, but only empty lands without any plantformation...

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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Apr-2005 at 02:22
I like the desert and forest both but the Channel scablands of WA state are very interesting. The whole region was carved by a huge flood after an ice dam broke thousands of years ago.





Accumulation of large basaltic boulders downstream of plunge pools at Dry Falls State Park. Dry Falls is a great cataract 3.3 miles wide and 396 feet high that formed during the cataclysmic late Pleistocene floods emanating from glacial Lake Missoula in Montana. The origin of the Channeled Scablands was the subject of one of the most famous controversies in the history of geology. When J. Harlen Bretz formulated the cataclysmic flood hypothesis in 1923, his ideas were rejected. Nearly 50 years passed before his ideas became a standard of geologic thinking. In 1979 and at nearly 90 years of age he was awarded the Penrose Medal of the Geological Society of America, the nation's highest geological award.

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  Quote Idanthyrus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Apr-2005 at 23:22

That whole area has hundreds of coulees, canyons made not by gradual errosion by a river but rather by one staggeringly destructive flood. Those pictures fail to convey the scale of the dryfalls, they really are quite humongous. I caught two nice rainbow trout there last summer 

OT, we have our share of mountains too! The view from my yard:



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