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Who really won the Space Race?
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    Posted: 08-Jan-2008 at 18:33
There is actual considerably research by private companies around the world, including U.S. and Japanese, for the construction of cheap deployable structures for a possible lunar base and even for mining asteroids near-Earth (possibly in the asteroid belt behind Mars).  I was surprised to find the amount of articles I found in different databases online on space construction projects.  It's actually quite fascinating - I thought it was all science fiction!
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I heard that Bush Wants a moon base in 2010 and wants to be on Mars in 2020. And by the way have any of you ever read or heard about the Phobos Incident?
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Originally posted by longshanks31

the terraforming of mars is possible, where we would venture after that is hard to say, maybe the moon europa,


The US will have a permanent moon colony by 2024, possibly earlier.

I can't think of a better start for this type of research


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let's all stop this pointless bickering and remember one thing: the respect and admiration we have for our friends, or comrades, the real heroes of the space race, the space monkeys






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the terraforming of mars is possible, where we would venture after that is hard to say, maybe the moon europa,
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Yeah, so we can discover and colonize new worlds and screw them up just as bad as we did this one... congratu-f*cking-lations, Mankind; or as we ought to put it, the Plague of Locusts.
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It doesnt matter who supposedly "won", what matters is the fact that the human race as a whole, has reached a new plateau so to speak.
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the USSR/Russia has had 75% of world's total space flights...hence my vote
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Dec-2007 at 00:37
Yeap. And there haven't been any trip to the Moon in the last 35 years!!!
The next trip there will be in 2020! 50 years after the first trip. And that with luck because the U.S. could suspend the program like it has done with many others before.
 
Amazing.
 
 
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Techinically, the Soviets won for entering space for the first time. (Both manned and unmanned). Americans incoperated space race into their economy and other aspects of life while the Soviets used it for pure military and security purposes... so Americans used space exploration more efficiently...
 
But I don't think anyone really won the space race. Access to space is still quite limited. Just because Vikings discovered America first doesn't mean they won the race to find the New World, right? The race for New World was concluded when transportation, communication and colonization of North/South America have been established. Space race is still going on, though US is very much ahead for now.
     
   
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apes and dogs won we was just the pit crew to there glory
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Nov-2007 at 10:56
Originally posted by Aster Thrax Eupator

I don't think I was due to any lack of technical ability by the USSR (after all, they did send the first probe to space - Spuntik 3 and the first probe to the moon - Luna 9), but economic issues. They couldn't have won because the stresses that we all know racked their society just became too much. In the '80s with starwars, the USSR could probably have designed something just as good, but didn't have the money to make it.
 
In the case of the space shuttle Buran, I agree with you that the failure was lack of resources. In fact, the shuttle flew once to space, although flown by wire, so it is obvious it worked.
 
However, the case of N1 and the soviet project to reach the moon is different. In there, there was major engineering problems and not lack of resources. The Americas achieved with the Saturn V something the Soviets only dream.
 
Why Soviets fail? Engineering is hard business, particularly when trying with large scale new technology. Perhaps they took the wrong design in a point of the development or perhaps they just have bad luck.
 
But Americans reached the moon ...


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I don't think I was due to any lack of technical ability by the USSR (after all, they did send the first probe to space - Spuntik 3 and the first probe to the moon - Luna 9), but economic issues. They couldn't have won because the stresses that we all know racked their society just became too much. In the '80s with starwars, the USSR could probably have designed something just as good, but didn't have the money to make it.

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Yea, both nations had their share of glory during the period so I would say it is somewhat a tie...
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In terms of a 'race' or a 'competition', the Soviets got an early lead, then the US 'crushed' them - total slam dunk.
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Space race is the name, not moon race, so the USSR deserves the honour very clearly. They beat the US in most endeavours except actually landing man on the moon.
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Originally posted by communist

If it was the Moon race i could see u justifying that the U.S. won but it wasnt a race to the moon but a race to Space
 
Your just playing with words here.. obviously if you consider the first IN space then yes the Soviets won.. but that is not what the space race really was.
 
 
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Depends whether you consider the space race a business enterprise or a scientific one. remember there are a 100 commercial space flights for every scientific one.
 
If the Space Race is a scientific one, the Americans won hands down. If it is an commercial one, Europe won hands downs.
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Russians were the first in Space period
 
The landing on the Moon etc. were just the consequences of the Soviet break through.
 
 


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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Nov-2007 at 19:23
Well, Russians surpassed Americans in the earliest space stations...
 
Skylab:
 
Mir:
 
That's true, perhaps the space race hasn't finish yet... they are in a stand by situation.
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