Loan words

I think Persian languages is one of the languages which has the most number of loan words from various languages!

Kabus
- MEANING: Incubus
� ORIGIN: Incubare (Latin)

Kado
- MEANING: Present
� ORIGIN: Cadeau (French)

Ketab
- MEANING: Book
� ORIGIN: Ketab (Arabic)

Kas
- MEANING: Pig
� ORIGIN: Kas (Sogdian)

Kakaz
- MEANING: Paper
� ORIGIN: Kok-ci (Chinese)

Kafur
- MEANING: Camphor
� ORIGIN: Kappura (Sanskrit)

Kak
- MEANING: Kind of bread
� ORIGIN: Kake (Coptic)

Kakol
- MEANING: Topknot, Forelock
� ORIGIN: Kakol (Mongolian)

Kanun
- MEANING: Rule, Focus
� ORIGIN: Kanon (Greek)

Kaleska
- MEANING: Coach
� ORIGIN: Kaleskay (Russian)

Kaka
- MEANING: Tutor
� ORIGIN: Kaka (Chagatai)

Kal
- MEANING: Unripe
� ORIGIN: Kalak (Hyrcanian)

Kamonvels
- MEANING: Having common interests
� ORIGIN: Commonwealth (English)

Kabab
- MEANING: Roast
� ORIGIN: Kababu (Babylonian)

Kobra
- MEANING: Cobra
� ORIGIN: Cobra de Capello(Portugese)

Kebrit
- MEANING: Match
� ORIGIN: Kupritu (Akkadian)

Katan
- MEANING: Linen
� ORIGIN: Kutina (Syriac)

Ketri
- MEANING: Kettle
� ORIGIN: Katli (Urdu)

Kotak
- MEANING: Beating, Cudgel
� ORIGIN: Kutak (Turkish)

Kadu
- MEANING: Squash
� ORIGIN: Qedu (Kurdish)

Karbas
- MEANING: Canvas
� ORIGIN: Karpas (Hindi)

Korsi
- MEANING: Chair
� ORIGIN: Koratsu (Japanese)

Karafs
- MEANING: Celery
� ORIGIN: Karpas (Hebrew)

Korkom
- MEANING: Saffron
� ORIGIN: Kurkema (Aramaean)

Karubi
- MEANING: Cherub
� ORIGIN: Charuba (Assyrian)

Kasma
- MEANING: Tress
� ORIGIN: Kasa (Lithuanian)

Koshad
- MEANING: Wide
� ORIGIN: Gojad (Transoxanian)

Kalaq
- MEANING: Crow
� ORIGIN: Guraq (Baluchi)

Kelan
- MEANING: Collar
� ORIGIN: Kolan (Caspian)

Kauchuk
- MEANING: Caoutchouc
� ORIGIN : Kauchuk (Quechua)

...

Kakaz - MEANING: Paper � ORIGIN: Kok-ci (Chinese)

Let's see Chinese invented paper, and you guys named it? Doesn't make much sense does it?

Anyway chinese for paper is not Kok-ci, its just Zi.

Kamonvels - MEANING: Having common interests � ORIGIN: Commonwealth (English)

COmmonwealth comes from commonweal.

which can be split into common and weal
weal means prosperity or fortune.

This word makes sense as a germanic word (the common prosperity of a group).

In persian is there a word Kamon meaning common and word vels meaning weal?

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri I think Persian languages is one of the languages which has the most number of loan words from various languages!

Don't worry Cyrus, Turkish probably has more loan words from Persian than Persian does from Turkish.

Looks like the Turks got "kabus" directly from Persian, even the spelling is unchanged. As for other loan words let me say that when my friend from Afghanistan speaks Farsi I pretty much pick up at least about 5 words in only a few sentences.

 

  Hey Cyrus:

  I started on this new job a month ago. I�m back in sales and marketing, but I would like to ask you for a special favor.

  My boss is an iranian friend I met some years ago.

  Despites the fact he speaks fluenty spanish like a regular mexican, he also speaks English, Portuguese and Japanese.

   I would like to learn some basic farsi.

   I hope you can enlightme.

   Regards

Edited by Jalisco Lancer

Originally posted by Roughneck Gotta be English with the most loan words.

Considering that the kings of England themselves didn't speak English for a good period of time, it's hardly surprising isn't it. That's probably also the reason that English has one of the largest vocabularies. A lot of the words in English have two versions to start with: one of Germanic and one of Romance (Latin) origins thus doubling the number.


Edited by Colchis

Originally posted by babyblue Originally posted by fastspawn [quote] Anyway chinese for paper is not Kok-ci, its just Zi.       "zi" is the modern day pronounciation in Mandarin...and if it's a loan word...then i'd say it was loaned a long long time ago...even if mandarin existed back in those days...would it be the same mandarin as the one we know of today?

That is an interesting question. We will never know whether this is true, because we have no audio recording of how Chinese in the Hand Dynasty spoke.

We know that the script was unified during the Qin Dynasty, so the word "ZI" remains the same (with the evolution of the character of course, but it remains essentially the same). But about what it sounds like i wouldn't know.

I would like to post a link about the origins and etymology of Chinese Language.


Chinese Language

Now the "true ethnicity" of the Chinese Emperors are under debate.
I have come across sites which state that the Hakka are the true ethnicity, being the ethnicity of Qin and the Han Emperors.

Hakka

Whether this is propoganda, or this is true i will not know because i cannot and do not have the resources to analyse and evaluate their argument.

Anyway, if Hakka is really the language spoken in the courts then, the word is still Zi (I don't know Hakka, but my mom told me.) Whether the sound ZI has changed over the years and the forced migrations of the hakka people i do not know.

Originally posted by Jalisco Lancer  Hey Cyrus:   I started on this new job a month ago. I�m back in sales and marketing, but I would like to ask you for a special favor.   My boss is an iranian friend I met some years ago.   Despites the fact he speaks fluenty spanish like a regular mexican, he also speaks English, Portuguese and Japanese.    I would like to learn some basic farsi.    I hope you can enlightme.    Regards

Ty here, you can learn some basics, www.iranianlanguages.com

Originally posted by Cywr Originally posted by Roughneck Gotta be English with the most loan words.  We have French, Latin, German, Norman, Spanish, American Indian, Old English (although would this count as borrowed?), you can probably start including Japanese words in there... ....Dutch, Welsh, Gaelic (Scots), Polish, Mongolian, Turkish, Amoy, Tamil, Hindi, Sanskrit, Malay, Arabic, Russian......

Hey, where's Greek on that list?

J/K

 Persian too. 

It's shir or arslan.  BTW, no one said, anywhere in this thread, that the Chinese used a loan word for paper.