DADT costs money and human reources!

The problem here is that the U.S. has a pesky little amendment, I believe is the 14th, which gives every citizen equal protection under the law. Since the U.S. military is bankrolled by all its citizens, including the gay ones, taxpayers have a right to dictate their hiring policies.

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The only difference is that before, gay patriots had to lie to enter into the military, and now they don't.

Of course, if conservatives like yourself don't want patriotic people to serve in combat, and want to encourage people to lie to fight for their country, then so be it.

I never thought that conservatives like yourself thought so little of poor farmboys and urban youth. Are you saying that they are bigots?

Now, I am sure that conservatives like you really believe in taxpayer's right to shape the government,

they believe in equal protection under the law, the right to allow patriotic young people to serve their country without being compelled to lie and that poor farmboys and urban youth are capable to work with people that are different from themselves.

If you do, then the "liberal hippie douchbag" and conservatives like you actually believe in the same values.

Where in the Constitution does it say the Federal Government can't regulate such activities, I believe the US Military is a Federal not a State institution.

Sorry I was a bit confusing in my wording, my mind is very jumbled and scattered. What I was saying was that back before the don't ask don't tell policy gays were outright banned, which meant that it wasn't a problem unless the "employee" lied on his application. Which is always grounds for dismissal, and the employer can't be blamed for the money wasted on said employee. (Hope that makes a little more sense, if not I'll just stop arguing that point.)

Of course, if conservatives like yourself don't want patriotic people to serve in combat, and want to encourage people to lie to fight for their country, then so be it.

So liberals believe that patriotic 14 year olds should be allowed to fight for the country, because that's a restriction as well. The government can make as many restrictions it wants.

From my personal experience yes, I have lived in the poor section of a major city so I know all about the "Man's out there to get me", and the "I'm owed something for nothing", attitude that many urban youth have, also I've spent enough time in the foothills of southern indiana (located very near the KKK capitol of the US) to know that many farmboys are racist assholes.

I'm not saying its an issue for all service men, but its a rational the government can use, and as long as a sizable portion of the US population believes that homosexuality is wrong.

Actually no, I believe its a citizens right to shape the government, paying taxes doesn't mean you should shape the government (nor should being born in a certain area entitled you to citizenship.)

Of course.

Actually I don't think liberals are douchebags, I was just using a south park quote to mock the fact that I expected to be yelled at.

Anyway I am not a conservative, I believe in tolerance and understanding and all that but I also believe that the government has a right to do what they feel is in the best interest and that politicians shouldn't dictate what the military does, no more than the military should dictate what politicians should do.

Then again I don't believe that republican democracy can accurately represent the actual views of the people so I tend not to care what the Government does because people won't do crap about it.