Bulgarian origins

Originally posted by Sarmat12 Originally posted by Anton What do  you mean by this  "primarily" ? These were examples of opposite influence. lgb also showed some other examples.     ... scientists like Pifagorus, authors like Sophokles it will indeed change the whole picture. Those people and their achievements don't have any thing to do with Thracians.

Actually not exactly true. There is a suggestion that St. Trifon  bears a lot of features that are similar to Dionisios. I think there are Greek and Romanian customs similar to Trifon zarezan.

Originally posted by Anton Pythagoras had a slave called Zamolxis :) I would consider this as an example of how Thracian religion influenced Greek people. Some arrogant ancient and present Hellenes might think different though

Edited by Sarmat12 - 18-Oct-2007 at 18:32

Originally posted by Yiannis St.Trifon is the protector of farmers and especially winegrowers. He was born in Lampsakos, close to Troy so not in Thrace.   Of course many Christian saints are related to pre-Christian deities. Is is no accident that e.g. the image of the christian God is so similar to the image of Zeus.

Also, as far as I remember Dyonisios worshiping was preserved at least untill 3-4 cent AD.

Originally posted by Sarmat12 I really want it. Please enlight me

Actually I think its very unshure what the influence of the Thracians on the Greeks was, because we dont have the Thracian point of view. Still its kind of safe to suppose that as far as religious practices and gods went the Thracians had influence on the Greeks(we have written prooves). We can also  suppose there was Greek influence on the Thracians also. I think the Thracians were influenced in art by the Greeks (Thracians beautiful treasures, similar to the Greek ones, are found mainly on the south part of Bulgaria). But still the influence in this sphere could have been in both ways. Yet I think, though I m a Bulgarian, that the Greek culture was superior to this of our ansestors. Why? Because even the Romans were very much influenced by the Greek culture (those Romans that thought Rome was the centre of the earth, plus geographically they are much more far from the Greeks than the Thracians). Also we have have those political theories in athens that lie in todays political systems in europe, we have the mathematicians, the physicians of ancient Greece. We have the beautiful ancient building in Athens. All in all, their culture was superior. This is not to say Thracians didnt have amazing culture themselves, they had, but still we dont have those amazing buildings as in Greece or any written notice of their discoveries.

Edited by Ioan-Assen II - 18-Oct-2007 at 20:04

Originally posted by Ioan-Assen II I think the Thracians were influenced in art by the Greeks (Thracians beautiful treasures, similar to the Greek ones, are found mainly on the south part of Bulgaria).

 

Edited by Seko - 18-Oct-2007 at 20:37

Usually it is the younger culture that borrows deities ,idols and heroes from the older one.This assumption made me place the Thracian  at the roots of the Greek one...