Bulgarian origins

 

It is not followed as much and not as widespread as in Bulgaria, where everyone wears them in March. Last March when I was in Sofia, everyone was giving me "Martenitsas" as present . It was very nice, from the receptionist at the hotel to the colleagues at work. I still have them tied up to the refrigerator (yes, I know. I should have tied them to a fruit-bearing tree)

 The Romanian version is different and I will paste it beneath...

Originally posted by Menumorut Londoner, about Martisor, look what I found: -archaeological discoveries proves that the first day of the spring was celebrated since 8000 years ago -from the time of Dacians have been discovered red and white pebbles on a thread, also coins on a wool thread in black and white. The beared coins were different by social status, it was of gold, silver or bronze -there is a legend (in the region of Moldavia is linked with a stone from Ceahlau mountains, see Mysterious places in Carpathians topic) about an old lady called Dochia (the name came from Evdokia/Eudoxia, of Greek origin) which was bad and in a winter day she asked her step daugther to whiten at river a very dirty coat which the girl started to wash but it was much and much getting darker. Than a man called Martisor appeared to the girl and gived her a red and white flower. Turning home with that flower, Dochia has seen the flower and believed the spring has come, she went with the sheeps out on the mountain, left down her 9 coats and in the top of the mountain started the cold and she frozen and got petrified together with her sheeps. I don't believe is a proto-Bulgar origin tradition, it is a pre-Christian tradition which could survived at a people Christianized by "osmoses", not at one like proto-Bulgars christianized at an oficial date. .

 

...3000 against the whole army of the Trojans...while the Greeks are still 2 miles behind in the sea...but even from such a distance You can hear 50 000 greeks shouting extatically "Voo-Voo-Voulgaroi!!!" -A chant that has survived through the millenia and is still used even nowadays by the Athenian public when they receive the football team from Thessaloniki ! -the city that bears its name after the Thessalian victor in the Trojan war-hence Thessalo-niki !!!

 

Good one Londoner  But let's stop here or we'll have to move this to historical amusement...

 

 

You live in the Disneyland, my friend.

 

Is that Hollywood movie you only source about Trojan war?

 

If you read Illiade, it clearly sais that the first Greek who touched the Trojan soil was not Achilles but Protesialus, who immediately was killed by Gector.

 

There was no such a fancy landing as shown in your favorite movie.

 

 

Yiannis You know very well that these are the original testimonies of two well known byzantine scholars!

What sources have you seen that point that in the middle ages the Bulgarians were considered Trojan descendants? I am digging into the subject and it will be very interesting to see them...