Divine Inconsistencies

Of course,let me take a very simple example but true.

I'd love to hear some answers from our devout Muslim, Christian, Judaist members, besides 'Humans are simply not supposed to understand these!' thing.

Originally posted by Zagros This thread should be entitiled, "religious inconsistencies" not divine.

There are non-theistic religions. I don't think a Buddhist can be expected to answer these questions.

No,but come on,as soon as humans through sciense achive some kind of understanding backed up by hard scientific evidence,the religion is up there try to give answers and explain how it all was said before in their religion.I bet once science finds the cure of cancer the religion will come up tellin us that it already was there in their religion.

Religion is about leading your life decently, piously, and justly. Not about answering every single question humans can come up with. Most of those questions have nothing to do with the goal of religion.

Science is the greatest thing that has happend to humanity,it made us self-conscious of our own insignificance.It made us moving in trying to understand our place in THE EVERYTHING,and therefore made us think on how we can continue our reproduction without stupidity,or wether it really matters.

A trifle arrogant aren't we? You are fully aware that you are using the word science in a completely incorrect context. "Science" is just facts and methodology, not as you make it sound a religion.

Originally posted by HEROI No,but come on,as soon as humans through sciense achive some kind of understanding backed up by hard scientific evidence,the religion is up there try to give answers and explain how it all was said before in their religion.I bet once science finds the cure of cancer the religion will come up tellin us that it already was there in their religion.   Science is the greatest thing that has happend to humanity,it made us self-conscious of our own insignificance.It made us moving in trying to understand our place in THE EVERYTHING,and therefore made us think on how we can continue our reproduction without stupidity,or wether it really matters.

Originally posted by HEROI Why do you expect religion to answer all the questions?????????     Because religion demands our   ,intelectual,phisical,spiritual freedoms.Thats why it must first satisfy our logical reasoning.Otherwise why does one belive in a religion??????????

Anton what you reply to my posts is not something that in my opinion coresponds to what i was try to explain,therefore i am not continuing a debate on which we dont have common ground,such as understanding each other.Feanor for example has posted answeres simmilar to what i have posted,if you dont really get what i am try to say then read what he is try to say,is quite simmilar.

1. Do all animals have souls? If not, why not? Doesn't that contradict with the simplest biological fact that humans are animals too?

I believe the correct response for the Catholic belief, is that animals do have some sort of soul but they are inferior to human souls, and individual animals will not experience the resurrection that individual humans will. The reasoning behind this is that if animals were given souls equal to humans that would mean things like to kill an animal would be as heinous to kill a human, and it is apparently obvious that humans and animals are not equals at all. Also in the Bible man is charged with being the masters of creation, and thus animals are merely another property of mankind.

What do you think about 'evolution'? Do you also deny 'gravitation'?

Evolutionary theory (and Gravitational theory for that matter) does not contradict the theological teachings of the Catholic church, therefore they are a non-issue as far as religion is concerned. They are merely unimportant scientific theories up to each individual to decide.

2. Dinasours dominated this planet for over 160,000,000 years, whereas humans exist since 200,000 ago and will probably be extinct in near future.

First off I would argue that as the most adaptable multi-cellular organism anything short of the moon crashing into the earth, human beings will be around for a long time, but that is not for this thread. Now onto the question....

Now really, what was the purpose of dinasours? Did god design them to decorate our museums?

There is only one "purpose" in the universe and that purpose is to fulfill God's divine plan for said universe. Perhaps in order for humanity to exist it was necessary for the dinosaurs to exist first. Paleontoligists will certainly tell you that the reason mammals came to dominate the planet was because of the deaths of the dinosaurs, and whose to say that humans wouldn't have the survival instincts they have now, if they hadn't had the inherited racial memories of the rat-like creature we evolved from.

3. Do you really think that all existence depends on our planet?

Do you really have proof there is existence elsewhere? Proof now, not likelihood.....

Now then, I do believe that there is strong suggestion that life may exist elsewhere in space, but their existence (and salvation) is as of now independent of ours. 

To go into detail, the Christian religion says that only man fell into sin and thus only man required God's salvation. However this raises certain theological issues with say alien intelligence. Do aliens have souls? If so are they human or animal souls? If they are human souls do they require salvation? If animal does this mean we are allowed to subjugate and dominate them? And not to get into the myriad of relatively minor theological concerns, such as would a christian woman be allowed to marry a christian alien even though they are of vastly different species. On these things though religion has a "wait and see" policy. If it is found we are not alone I believe that Vatican officials have said that there would be an Ecumenical council to clarify the issue.

Originally posted by Feanor   You can always answer them yourself.

Originally posted by HEROI Anton what you reply to my posts is not something that in my opinion coresponds to what i was try to explain,therefore i am not continuing a debate on which we dont have common ground,such as understanding each other.Feanor for example has posted answeres simmilar to what i have posted,if you dont really get what i am try to say then read what he is try to say,is quite simmilar.