New findings of Thracian Archeology

Anton, this is what i have been looking for lately!

I'm reading about Phrygians nowdays. Some linguists believe that some indoeuropean invaders of the balcans sharing a common language way back separated and created different linguistic groups like Greek, Phrygian and Armenian. While some entered Greece and together with the natives resulted the Greek language, others passed through Thrace and resulted the Phrygian language. Anyway, Thracian is a good point to start such a research!

I flipped the coin and read the following Shiysha Tiritos (ΣΗΥΣΑ ΤΗΡΗΤΟΣ). That is how you read the text on the coin. Doesn't make sense at all in Greek but I guess that is the name of the guy depicted.

Do you have any other material where the Thracian Language is written with Greek letters? It would help me a lot.

In addition to Duridanov's book in Kroraina there is also a book of Dimiter Detschew entitled "Die thrakischen Sprachreste" where you can find a list of all known Thracian words with the texts (mostly Greek) in which those words are met. That is very good reference book.

Originally posted by Anton I found only this online: http://www.kroraina.com/thrac_lang/index.html   But you probably know it. From the discussion in Bulgarian forum I understood that Tiritos have meaning in Greek. But I might be mistaken.

Thanks!
I visited kroraina a long time ago. Very good site. Had forgotten about it.

The closest equivalent to tiritos would be the verb tireo/tiro which means eather "I take care" or "I watch over". We also say in some parts of Greece "ti tiras?" which means "what are you looking at?".

However, i think in the case of the coin the name is some thracian word. As for Shiysa (ΣΗΥΣΑ)...We never use the combination ΗΥ which are two 'i' sounds together. Y next to a vocal becomes short F or V. However, that vowel can never be H. So obviously they use the vowels differently. Maybe, Y has a completely different usage/sounding in Thracian that it has in Greek.

Originally posted by Krum .According to proffessor George Kitov the treasure is unique

Originally posted by Anton Well, the way of painting doesn't remind me Greek either.  By the way would you read it as Shiisa or Ziiza? Can it be read as Ziuza or Shiusa? What I wonder is where are the papers this seal stamped on? What was written on them?

Not Shiusa for sure (ypsilon is I not U)...The question is how they used the vowels. I can't answer to that. Obviously the Y has a different grammatic usage in their language.

Originally posted by Anton There is a proposition from Bulgarian linguists that it is a variant of "Sevt (Seuta) son of Tiritos"

So the Greek Ita (H) was read as E? Interresting.

Indeed the genitive form of Teres (Teris) would be "Tiritos".

Edited by Yiannis - 24-Jul-2007 at 05:54

Yes, it was my mistake, son of Teres of course.