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QueenCleopatra 
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 Topic: Your Favourite US President and why?Posted: 07-Jul-2007 at 16:33 |
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I'm always curious about the way world leaders work and how different types of leaders appeal to different people. The Presidency of America is probably the most powerful position in the world and so a very interesting one to discuss.
So is/was your favourite president and why?
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elenos
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Posted: 08-Jul-2007 at 23:43 |
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Without a doubt, John F Kennedy. He worked to take done trade barriers with Europe and he liked his woman.
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DesertHistorian
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Posted: 12-Jul-2007 at 23:28 |
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Teddy Roosevelt.
He established the National Parks system, began the Panama Canal project which revolutionized trade around the world.
He also won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1906.
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Kamikaze 738
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Posted: 13-Jul-2007 at 00:10 |
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RDF because he was just such a great leader during a time of crisis plus I believe he was the only president that has gotten 3 elections (strange consider that a president can only serve 2 terms in the USA...).
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red clay
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Posted: 13-Jul-2007 at 07:12 |
Actually it was 4 terms, he died shortly after the 4th election.
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pekau
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Posted: 14-Jul-2007 at 12:44 |
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Roosevelt. Manage to lead Americans from Depression to the near end of WWII.
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TheDiplomat
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Posted: 14-Jul-2007 at 19:55 |
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Thomas Jefferson.
''That government is the best that rules the least.''
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kurt
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Posted: 14-Jul-2007 at 22:52 |
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Franklin Roosevelt. The only non-facist who played a major role in World War Two, so far as i am concerned. A good man, plain and simple. A good president too, timing american intervention perfection perfectly, let alone countering the great depression.
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Posted: 15-Jul-2007 at 05:39 |
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Abraham Lincoln- who fought the confederate states during the American Civil War to abolish slavery and succeeded.
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Panther
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Posted: 15-Jul-2007 at 22:39 |
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Mine would probably be A. Lincoln. Because he is one of those rare breed of politican's of his era, (or any era in this republic's history, for that matter!), who always knew where he stood on the most contoversial issues of his day. But he also knew how too best govern a republic and keep his many subordinates and their blindingly selfish political ambition's in line, while this country was in the midst of trying too tear itself manically apart. |
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GR3Y077
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Posted: 24-Jul-2007 at 11:49 |
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Of course, A. Lincoln! The US is where it is today, because of him.
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Posted: 24-Jul-2007 at 12:08 |
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Thomas Jefferson. Few American presidents have been that smart, and doing things so well.
In second place I would put to Franklin D. Roosvelt, because of the "new deal".
I believe Ronald Reagan did it quite well in the managament of the Soviet Union falldown. The last president of the U.S. that I admired was Clinton; a good fellow and with a good heart that people loved spontaneously.
I don't admire Lincoln, because if he were more skillful perhaps could avoid a war that cost too many lives.
Finally, I can stand not even in painting the Indiana Jones of Theodore Roosvelt!! Paradygm of imperialism.
Pinguin Edited by pinguin - 25-Jul-2007 at 00:17 |
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Panther
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Posted: 24-Jul-2007 at 23:51 |
I don't believe skill had anything to do with A. Lincoln's failure in avoiding the war, i think he had plenty of political skill. The ACW had been a long time in coming about since the birth of the US, in whether the right for sates too secede was lawful or not. Mr. Lincoln's greatest sin upon election, is that he made no bones about where he stood on the most contoversial issues of his day. A little factual note: (He was against the American-Mexican war, as he saw it not only as expansionist, but also in favor of strengthening the influence of slavery too those territories, and only benefitting those very slave owner's of the South and not the entire country as a whole! One could say it accelerated the war by decades, if not made it virtually impossible too avoid!)
As far as T.R. is concerned, i think he was a very good President, but as far as his image goes outside of the country, he did himself the most PR damage by promoting himself into this symbol of American toughness & individual ruggedness, which led to too many misconstruing his talk as him having "Imperial ambitions"! Of course some of his actions didn't help too calm our southern neighbors fear's, especially in regards to Panama. That fell to FDR's administration to try and fix that, the best that it could!
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Posted: 25-Jul-2007 at 00:14 |
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Yes, Teddy 
Pinguing Edited by pinguin - 25-Jul-2007 at 00:15 |
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elenos
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Posted: 25-Jul-2007 at 00:45 |
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If kennedy had blown up the world it would't have taken him very long to repopulate it! That's what I like about the guy.
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Panther
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Posted: 25-Jul-2007 at 01:53 |
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Pinguin,
I won't sit here and deny his faults didn't exist, of course they did. It's my view, no President, or anyother person(s)... are infallible and 100% free from the prejudice/bias of their particular era. We all are guilty of that on a daily basis. In that way during his era, A. Lincoln's view's were way ahead of the majority of American politicans of his time, including much bigger and nationally well known names than his, before he ever assumed the Presidency.
I'm sure i am going to get raked over the coals for this comment, though i am not intentionally trying enflame anyones feeling's! Just other contrary opinion's i have heard. Anyhow, some would say that by Kennedy/Khrushchev almost blowing up the world (Which ever makes one happy too blame)... makes Mr. Bush's current efforts pale into insignificant comparison!
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konstantinius
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Posted: 27-Jul-2007 at 22:23 |
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Eisenhower. He kept his cool during the Cold War and absolutely refused to get involved in Vietnam to back the French because he correctly saw the French cause for what it really was: colonialist nationalistic attempt on the part of the French military to outdo its shame during WW II with absolutely no national backing in Vietnam himself. Go Ike. JFK and LBJ jumped on Vietnam like flies on sh*t with the known consequences.
Ike was a great team player; his years as Supreme Allied and (later) first NATO commander taught him how to work WITH people, not against them. If only the politicians of today drew analogies from his Presidency we wouldn't be stuck in the Iraq quagmire and the nation would not be as divided along moralistic/religious issues as it is now. Edited by konstantinius - 28-Jul-2007 at 06:46 |
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elenos
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Posted: 27-Jul-2007 at 22:48 |
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Nothing wrong with choosing Lincoln, Panther. He had to end slavery even if it meant taking the country to war.
I never thought of Ike, konstantinius. He has almost become the unknown president. When things go right then there is nothing to talk about! JKF did make a huge mistake in Vietnam, one wonders how he would have corrected it if given the chance. LBJ was stuck with a situation not of his own making and yet suffered most of the blame. |
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gcle2003
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Posted: 28-Jul-2007 at 14:44 |
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My favourite president - i.e. the one I like most as a person - is undoubtedly Jimmy Carter.
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Adalwolf
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Posted: 28-Jul-2007 at 15:21 |
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Hmm...
Probably Jefferson or Teddy Roosevelt, though I'm leaning towards Jefferson at the moment. |
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