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    Posted: 27-Jun-2007 at 17:59
Numberwise, which faction possessed the largest navy? (In any period of time)
     
   
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Numerically it was the British until the Yanks overtook them. But the answer entirely depends upon the type of nautical technology used,  from what period of time and for how long. We cannot compare the navies of the Ancient World with those of today, but in their time they were state of the art. The Vikings built a huge amount of sailing ships, but a navy they were not. Just a few of the good old boys having their bit of fun with some plunder and pillage here and there.
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They best way to answer that would be in terms of tonnage rather than numbers of vesses, since the later carry out very numerous tasks not all of them are related to naval duties. Whilst for tonnage, the larger a ship, the more likely she is to be a warship or a capital ship. Going by that the US Navy was the largest in history, in 1945.

 
And just to show that is tonnage rather than numbers that matter, the US Army in 1945 has more total vesses than the navy, these were however mainly riverine craft, rafts, lading crafts and 'phib vehicals.
 
 
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The largest navy was actually the Chinese during the Ming Dynasty with a fleet of over 300 ships
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The largest navy was actually the Chinese during the Ming Dynasty with a fleet of over 300 ships
 
 
Only in their dreams.Tongue Even now the navy has a ship listing of 286 active service vessels. They probably have twice that in the Mothball fleet.
 
From Wiki-   By 1943, the Navy's size was larger than the combined fleets of all the other combatant nations in World War II.[15] By war's end in 1945, the United States Navy had added hundreds of new ships, including 18 aircraft carriers and 8 battleships, and had over 70% of the world's total numbers and total tonnage of naval vessels of 1,000 tons or greater.[16][17] At its peak, the U.S. Navy was operating 6,768 ships on V-J Day in August 1945.[18]
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Yes,on D-day invasion have been collected biggest number of boats.

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hmmm, US Navy after WW2 can be compared to Royal Navy after Napoleonic wars. Both navies themselves could have fight all the other navies of the world combined together.
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The largest navy was actually the Chinese during the Ming Dynasty with a fleet of over 300 ships
 
I believe just one Chinese pirate queen back in the 19th century had a fleet of over 1,500 vessels.
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Tonnage is not a good way of figuring out who had the largest navy. A single Nimitz class carrier weighed more than the entire Royal navy fleet at Trafalgar, but has it, on its own made a greater contribution to history, or actually won anything? Not really. But a whole fleet of warships is more than just one, and the question was which is the largest navy. Does that mean that a Nimitz carrier is a larger Navy than the Trafalgar fleet would have been? Of course not, it's nonsense.

I think it would probably be a close run thing to count the number of RN vessels and compare them at the height of the Napoleonic wars with the USN of 1945. I think it would probably have been the USN, but finding stats for the RN around, say 1810 would be very tricky. I couldn't find anything after a quick search, but reckon it would have been 500+ vessels.
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Aug-2011 at 11:05
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Tonnage is not a good way of figuring out who had the largest navy. A single Nimitz class carrier weighed more than the entire Royal navy fleet at Trafalgar, but has it, on its own made a greater contribution to history, or actually won anything? Not really. But a whole fleet of warships is more than just one, and the question was which is the largest navy. Does that mean that a Nimitz carrier is a larger Navy than the Trafalgar fleet would have been? Of course not, it's nonsense.

I think it would probably be a close run thing to count the number of RN vessels and compare them at the height of the Napoleonic wars with the USN of 1945. I think it would probably have been the USN, but finding stats for the RN around, say 1810 would be very tricky. I couldn't find anything after a quick search, but reckon it would have been 500+ vessels.
 
 
A single Nimitz class Carrier carrys the destructive potential of an entire WWII battle fleet.
And without a doubt has twice the destructive power of the Trafalgar Fleet.
 
Most naval histories I've red place the Trafalgar fleet at approx. 60 ships. With a total Royal Navy of about 260 armed vessals.
 
The Nimitiz Class Carriers were built for war.  But what they have shown over and over is they are good at winning peace.  Things have a way of quieting down whenever one of them shows up at a hot spot.
 
 
 
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120 billion $ floating battle fortress,Niimitz,can fight war almost alone.Long distance missiles with supersonic speed are its only enemies.In ancient times,Big Navy,was created by converting trading&fishing
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  Quote Guaporense Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Nov-2011 at 15:45
The largest navy ever in terms of tonnage was the American navy in 1945. In terms of number of warships the largest navies probably were the navies of Hellenistic states during Classical Antiquity before the mediterranean was unified by Rome, as the hellenistic states were always at naval war and had fleets of hundreds and hundreds of triremes, quadriremes, quinquiremes, sixes, sevens, etc. These ships were not very large in terms of tonnage, but were deployed in huge numbers. They were adapted to the geography of the mediterranean.

One example was the naval battle of Cape Ecnomus in 256 BC which involved 680 quinquiremes with a total crew of 285,000 men, since a quinquireme had a crew of 420 men (as compared with 170 for a trireme). We have several other instances of battles involving 400-500 warships during the hellenistic period, another battle was Actium in 31 BC, involving 540 warships.

Battles involving such number of warhisps wouldn't appear again in history. The largest battle ever by tonnage was Jutland.
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Nov-2011 at 11:22
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The largest navy ever in terms of tonnage was the American navy in 1945. In terms of number of warships the largest navies probably were the navies of Hellenistic states during Classical Antiquity before the mediterranean was unified by Rome, as the hellenistic states were always at naval war and had fleets of hundreds and hundreds of triremes, quadriremes, quinquiremes, sixes, sevens, etc. These ships were not very large in terms of tonnage, but were deployed in huge numbers. They were adapted to the geography of the mediterranean.

One example was the naval battle of Cape Ecnomus in 256 BC which involved 680 quinquiremes with a total crew of 285,000 men, since a quinquireme had a crew of 420 men (as compared with 170 for a trireme). We have several other instances of battles involving 400-500 warships during the hellenistic period, another battle was Actium in 31 BC, involving 540 warships.

Battles involving such number of warhisps wouldn't appear again in history. The largest battle ever by tonnage was Jutland.
 
 
I restate this, by the end of the war in 1945, The US Navy had 6,780 ships in service, and a approx. 100 more in the ways.
 
The planning set up when the war started, called for a protracted war, with production scheduled to 1965.  If they had stuck to the sched. the US Navy would have had close to 100 main battle Carriers by 1960.
 
 
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