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SulcataIxlude
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Topic: Racism through history. Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 11:52 |
Hello everyone, if this post is in the wrong forum, I humbly apologize in advance. I was wondering if racism was a problem that has been prominent since ancient societies, or was it more low-key until colonialzation and use to religion/cultural superiority to justify the slave trade and other world altering events. Thank you all for your time.
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dark_one
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 12:14 |
It was definitely around since the start of Rome, and probably long before that. Racism now is not as widespread.
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Polish-UkrainianCanadian
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 12:47 |
C'est un sujet incroyablement. Wang ty otkuda v Rossiy??
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Polish-UkrainianCanadian
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 13:29 |
これは全然意味を成していない! 私はドイツ人か英国が最もよいどうかかなり確実でない。
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Paul
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 15:20 |
The Ancient Egyptions were pretty prejudiced towards the Nubians by all accounts, and the Greeks regarded the Persians as an inferior race. They're the two oldest I can think of.
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Tobodai
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 15:45 |
I dont thinkt the Egyptians should count as racist in the modern sense, as long as you were culturally Egyptian you could rise to any position and hold any office regardless of actual race or ethnic background.
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Polish-UkrainianCanadian
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 16:43 |
Oui, les egyptiens ancien ont un civilization horrible. Ils ont tr鑚 horrible, parce que ils ont tu les Nubiens, et les Nubiens sont les esclaves de les egyptiens ancien.
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dark_one
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 18:08 |
ty otkuda v Rossiy??
Iz Moskvyi
A tyi chevo govorish po Franzuski?
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Polish-UkrainianCanadian
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 18:14 |
da, ya govorit po frantsuskyy, anglieskyy, russkiy, i ukrayinskyy.
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Polish-UkrainianCanadian
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 18:19 |
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Infidel
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 18:39 |
Shouldn't this be in english? There's a non-english section for that.
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Murph
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 21:39 |
yeah, i thought it was supposed to stay english
anyway, i think that what has to be decided here is the difference
between viewing one's culture as superior and racism. since the
beginning of civilization, cultures have looked down on foreign
cultures as inferior simply because they were different. however,
tobadai said, it is not really racism if someone of a different race is
accepted in society if they share a common culture.
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SulcataIxlude
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 22:10 |
I've read that in Ancient Rome and Greece any foreigner who asserted into Roman or Greek culture would be accepted, and could get any goverment position or job without having to worry about the color of their skin, or mother culture.
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dark_one
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Posted: 05-Feb-2005 at 22:55 |
Unfortunately I do not have the Slavic alphabet pack thing (or
wahtever it is called) on my computer here in America, so I can't see
Russian characters.
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coolstorm
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 17:28 |
Racism has been around since the creation of mankind.
In ancient China, everyone outside the Great Wall was recorded as an uncivilized barbarian on Imperial documents and historical records by the court.
In the West, same thing was done by the Romans and the Greeks although many Persians and who was called barbarians actually did achieve a high level of civilization (e.g. barbylon).
In the US today, there are stereotypes targeting different races. e.g. Asians are good at math but bad in sport.
however, to a certain extent, I kinda think that Asians are relatively weak in sport on an average basis as well.
I can say that because I am an Azn myself
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dark_one
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 18:07 |
What are some white or Russian stereotypes?
And yes I actually do drink a lot of Vodka for one thing. In fact a lot of people in my family were alcoholics.
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Artaxiad
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 18:22 |
People imagine that whites are the only racists around. That's kind of a stereotype, don't you think? Racism towards whites is generaly ignored.
The Irish are considered good drinkers
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demon
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 19:31 |
Well...I don't think I can define racism in this context. Anyone enlighten me?
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 20:47 |
It's a bit difficult to explain... but I will try with an example. I hope you understand.
A few months ago I read a story called ''The Pearl''. Part of the story shows how White South Americans treated the Aborigins. In it, the antagonist was a rich fat white doctor who didn't cure the poisoned baby of the main character, just because he was an Aborigin. Instead of properly doing his job, he only thought about money and luxuries. None of my classmates thought that the text shows a bad stereotype of white men, and that the author might have been racist.
If the antagonist (in this case, the doctor) was for example, a Jew - sort of like ''The Merchant of Venice'' - everybody would have concluded that the author was racist.
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TheOrcRemix
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 00:37 |
Originally posted by Artaxiad
People imagine that whites are the only racists around. That's kind of a stereotype, don't you think? Racism towards whites is generaly ignored.
The Irish are considered good drinkers
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