Atlantis in Albania?

these ciklopes walls are not the onlest in Albania,there are a lot of them around Albania and this doesnt mean they are all built by Byzantines...

The paleolithic and neolithic ones we can now seperate from  later constructions but  in the middle ages they could not.Again Europe and beyond is full of them.

Yes , in geographic terms he might claim historical pieces of ancient Greek civilisation(like most of the countries around mediterranean sea).

Originally posted by Laberia all glory belongs to ancient greece only

What is this suppose to mean?Atlantis was supposedly in the atlantic ocean not in Ancient Greece.Please Read plato.Though for me its still a symbolic story of hubris and great civilizations.

Atlantians were Atlantians

"He [Solon] also spent some time in studies with Psenophis of Heliopolis [in Egypt] and Sonkhis of Sais, who were very learned priests. From these, as Plato says, he heard the story of the lost Atlantis, and tried to introduce it in a poetical form to the Greeks." - Plutarch, Solon 26.1

"Plato, ambitious to elaborate and adorn the subject of the lost Atlantis, as if it were the soil of a fair estate unoccupied, but appropriately his by virtue of some kinship with Solon, began the work by laying out great porches, enclosures, and courtyards, such as no story, tale, or poesy ever had before.  But he was late in beginning, and ended his life before his work. Therefore the greater our delight in what he actually wrote, the greater is our distress in view of what he left undone. For as the Olympieion in the city of Athens, so the tale of the lost Atlantis in the wisdom of Plato is the only one among many beautiful works to remain unfinished." - Plutarch, Solon 32.1

"Those who live on the shores of Okeanos tell a fable of how the ancient kings of Atlantis, sprung from the seed of Poseidon, wore upon their head the bands from the male Ram-fish, as an emblem of their authority, while their wives, the queens, wore the curls of the females as a proof of theirs." - Aelian, On Animals 15.2

"There is reported to be another island off [African] Mount Atlas [in the Atlantic], itself also called Atlantis, from which a two days� voyage along the coast reaches the desert district in the neighbourhood of the Western Aethiopes and the cape mentioned above as the Horn of the West, the point at which the coastline begins to curve westward in the direction of the Atlantic." - Pliny, Natural History 6.199

Read these as well

Sources:

• Plato, Timaeus - Greek Philosophy C4th BC
• Plato, Critias - Greek Philosophy C4th BC
• Plutarch, Lives - Greek Historian C1st-2nd AD
• Aelian, On Animals - Greek Natural History C2nd - C3rd AD
• Pliny the Elder, Natural History - Latin Natural History C1st AD

Originally posted by Laberia Even if we take that all glory belongs to ancient greece only ,still the albo guy might have more right to deffend the cultural inheritance of ancient greece then u modern greek guys:-)

1) nobody told the glory of Atlantis belongs to ancient Greece.
2) I though Albanians are supposed to be Illyrians. Did they suddenly become Greeks? Ellaborate please, cause we've hearing the same things recently.

Originally posted by GANO Flipper.if you see my previous posts you would understand that my opinion is that ancient illiryan and greeks are people who speak the same language.Modern albanaians may be the ones who still preserv it,but i dont belive that all albanains modern or ancient are categoricaly illiryan.ciao.

Gano. According to Polybius they needed translators.

Also, you don't have any evidence on how Illyrian sounded. If Albanians preserved it then it is definetely not the same language. I can read ancient Greek very well and while it might be soundwise similar to certain albanian dialects, there are extremely few similarities in basic words.

Ok, on the other side there are linguists who have a theory that waaaaaaaay back in time before the IE invations Phrygians, Illyrians and Greeks were gathered in one place and shared many linguistic similarities. However, you can never prove that. Ok, between Phrygians and Greeks it might be easy to come to that conclution but Illyrian and Greek is far fetched. I did a study on that theory about a year ago and tryed to gather every possible source. No luck at all. Just theory and no evidence.

This thread is more than ridiculus to be left open. Starting of as "Atlantis in Albania" was one thing, but now it's totally out of this world.