Gun Control/Gun Ownership

 

There is a town in the orient where even all kids are wearing ammunition belts. It has the highest crimes rates in the World. That is the town where all American, used to sleep with there weapons, are a shining example.

This town is called Bagdad.

And having almost as many firearms as citizens does cause the U.S. government to think twice about messing around with constitutional freedoms.

 

 

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Pikeshot commented it like this: "For anyone who doesn't like America...."

 

 

100% agree with you. But then again the US are to strong to be threatened by any military means, it is only logical that its enemies bash it hard. That explains but doesn't excuse the behaviour of some of the members.

I don't lose sleep over that
Glad to hear it because as they say in Italy: "who sleeps doesn't think badly, who doesn't think badly doesn't act badly, who doesn't act badly goes to heaven". I'm glad to tell you my friend you're going straight to the 72 virgins' inn.

It took little time for a thread in support of the kids at VPI, and for Jim Dorman to slide into snide and critical comments about how the American "gun culture" is reflective of our paranoid, psychopathic nature, and that we are "cowboys" and we all think our neighbors or the government is going to axe murder us in our sleep.

You should know better, kindness doesn't sell in this world.

No I'll move to the US (in September) because 1) my girlfriend's a Yank 2) you've got jobs 3) NYC's the ultimate cool place 4) dollars' so cheap nowadays this country's a bargain!

Nobody I know walks around armed and looking over his shoulder expecting an attack.
For me that is not really the problem. The question is are you ready to shoot at and potentially kill somebody stealing your HD TV because most of the times it boils down to that.

OK, I am ranting here.
Indeed.

But, those comments are idiotic.
Indeed.

You really don't know us very well.
Well enough (although not all of you I've only been acquinted with NE, Texas, Iowa and California people).

You may think you do, but you don't.

As far as a right to bear arms, I am not a gun owner.
Why? what about Kant's categoric imperative?

I have no need of a gun.
Are you this kind of citizen that happily live in a fenced community? If not why do some need guns?

If someone wants to handle weapons, he can enlist in the National Guard.
Sounds sensible

Or he can go buy one.
As many have said before that is the problem.

It is the reality here
That is one of the weakest point of your argument. The very base of your system is "here it is different you cannot understand" but then you're upset when people tell you "you are different we cannot understand you".

and dates from 1787 when there was a frontier
Yeah and in 1787 men were wearing stockings (and they had slaves)� Times change.

when the defense of the Republic was based on a militia.
Several countries gained or regained their independence/liberty with their guns is it a reason why every body ought to keep a gun at home. Take Spain for instance, they defeated Napoleon with guerrilla tactics and then the people fought the army for three years, in a way they'd be much more entitled than any American to bear guns but as far as I know most of them don't�

So?  It is not the only archaic legal principal in existence.
It is a typical example of legal fetishism. Each and every law is suceptible to be changed within a day. Saying this law cannot be changed is overlooking the very principle of democration and of the nature of what a law is. The only laws that cannot be changed are the supernatural ones (God's), you (I mean this strawman named Pikes I guess you personaly have a sensible answer to that) see the Constitution as if it was a kind of Sharia and the founding fathers as a kind of saints.

You don't amend the Constitution every time there is an emotional/political hot button, or you wind up with disasters like Prohibition.
Some say (see in England) that having a constitution at all is idiotic. Other feel better if they just change it once in a while. If fighting a crime rate that is higher than in 12th century England is a mere "emotional hot button", cheers to that but the day my kids get killed (inch Allah it won't happen) with a legally bought weapon I'll be much less civilized and call you a murderer�


Sorry I've been long but really that is something I fail to understand why any man would offer blindly his children in holocaust to an groundless ideology (because that is what it is). Constitution = Baal.

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Canadian gun control is not that strict: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2007/04/18/ont-bryant-gunregistry.html?ref=rss

 

I also do remember Canada accusing US absense of gun control laws, as a reason for the inflow of guns into Canada. Short of "imported violence"....