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TheDiplomat 
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 Topic: The Golden Years of Islamic StatesPosted: 18-Aug-2004 at 11:43 |
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Hello forumers, which years were written as golden pages for the history of Islam you think? Regards |
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Tobodai
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Posted: 18-Aug-2004 at 19:43 |
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irst Abbasid caliphat, height of Ottoman empire, and of course the Omayidds and others in Spain.
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Ptolemy
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Posted: 19-Aug-2004 at 00:05 |
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Umayyads, and the beginning of the Abassids. After that, we need to look reagionally. Example, the Ottomans never had any effect on the entire Eastern half of the Islamic world, and vice versa.
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Kalevipoeg
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Posted: 20-Aug-2004 at 11:17 |
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In the political view, i see the Islamic decline and losing of any previous capabilities it had to change the will of Europe after 1700. AD But as we look at Islam itself, i see it's decline, maybe after the RASHIDUN, as then the power struggle began, most of the caliphs lived in luxury and that fact itself is unislamic. Politics mixed with religion, makes a cocktail in which religion is the one to loose his color. As it is and will be with ANY religion. The biggest believers are still the peasants and the few lucky learned men. |
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ihsan
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Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 16:04 |
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The Abbasids definitially had their "Golden Years" during their earlier times. The Golden Age of Shiites was during the 10th century, when they ruled the entire Northern Africa and most of the Middle East (Palestine, Syria, Iraq and Western Iran). |
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Nick1986
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The Ottoman Empire from the 1400s until c.1800. The Turks brought about the end of the Roman empire, temporarily stabilised the Balkans, and threatened to conquer the rest of Europe. However, starting with defeats at the hands of the Russians, and later Napoleon, Turkey ended up the "sick man of Europe" by the time of the Crimean War
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oxydracae
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Ottomans in Near East, Safavids in Persia and Mughals in India... I believe this is the Golden Period of Islamic States...
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Ollios
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Posted: 03-Aug-2012 at 15:09 |
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and Caliphate of Córdoban in Europe |
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Don Quixote
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 at 08:44 |
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I'm not impressed by the Ottoman Empire - I see it as a military state, not a cultural one. Besides, they dragged down the Middle East and the Balkans with their stagnated economics big time.
I'll go with the Caliphate of Cordoba - a very cultured state, in every way, very progressive, chock-full with Islamic scientists etc. |
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Ollios
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Posted: 06-Aug-2012 at 17:27 |
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Golden age involves also the peak millitary point of that civilizasion. Millitary power is not an obstacle to count it in that group. For example the first golden age of Bulgaria is also the years when they had the largest land.
 That is result of historical rage perspective. maybe that can show something *1577: Istanbul observatory of Taqi al-Din, Turkey but *1580: Uraniborg, Denmark
Definately I don't agree, there is a term: Balkanization. Which scenario is the best for Balkans; small countries which are fighting each other or one big country? Ottoman built many structure for watering, travelling just or trade and agriculture. Edited by Ollios - 06-Aug-2012 at 17:28 |
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