Schools allowed to ban face veils

Originally posted by Alparslan   EDIT: Alparslan, there are things you say on public discussion boards and there are things you don't say. The parts I've edited should not be said in public. Please try to stay polite and decent. Omar al Hashim,

Originally posted by Leonidas Originally posted by Alparslan Originally posted by Alparslan   EDIT: Alparslan, there are things you say on public discussion boards and there are things you don't say. The parts I've edited should not be said in public. Please try to stay polite and decent. Omar al Hashim,     Offfff what's wrong with talking about sperm bank?   Forcing women wearing face veil is unpolite than talking about sperm bank.   And please make a list of what shouldn't be said and should be said as being the moral authority of the forum. your original post was blatantly hostile and offensive. Ive asked you before to tone down your hostility towards Mortaza and you continue. You have no excuse, your English is good enough to understand the CoC.If you cant help yourself no one will

Edited by Alparslan - 02-Apr-2007 at 08:59

Originally posted by Styrbiorn Originally posted by Mortaza forcing customs is totally, untolerant.(I am not even talking about respecting their rights, but tolerance to their culture.) But this is a case of conflicting customs. You are demanding the natives should tolerate the new-comers', while you think the newcomers shouldn't give a damn about the prevalent native customs.

Thank you nieghbor from Sweden- you couldn't have said it better!! Mortaza you know nothing about being American. "When in Rome do as the Romans do!!!" The judge needed to see her face to determine a verdict- end of story!!
I can see that the more Muslims who migrate to the USA the more we will have cultural conflicts like this. When I was in Turkey I had total respect for their customs and way of life, even when I did not agree with it. One reason I will not go to strict Islamic nations like Saudi Arabia.

Borders, language and culture - Michael Savage from Savage Nation

Edited by eaglecap - 02-Apr-2007 at 16:07

 Alparslan - no matter how passionately you feel about a subject discussion about male anatomy and it's functions is best left out of polite PG rated public forums. Please refrain from such talk.

Originally posted by Alparslan Originally posted by Leonidas Originally posted by Alparslan Originally posted by Alparslan � EDIT: Alparslan, there are things you say on public discussion boards and there are things you don't say. The parts I've edited should not be said in public. Please try to stay polite and decent.Omar al Hashim,� � Offfff what's wrong�with talking about sperm bank? � Forcing women wearing face veil is unpolite than talking about sperm bank. � And�please make a list of what shouldn't be said and should be said as being the moral authority of the forum. your original post was blatantly hostile and offensive. Ive asked you before to tone down your hostility towards Mortaza and you continue. You have no excuse, your English is good enough to understand the CoC.If you cant help yourself no one will � We are talking about our ideas. � I think that insead of forcing women to live under face veils since�men have fever when they see a woman hair, cut your penis and testicles, put your sperms into a sperm bank�and let�women free. � In addition if you are erected by seeing hair of a women it may mean that you may be pervert. A society can not be built upon pervert values. � Even if it�seems like these are�offensive words, I think we are talking about treating half of the human being as second class because of their sex. Sorry but the situation is beyond the scope of being polite. � Everybody should say openly what he/she thinks on the subject. In addition to this I am a Muslim. � What's wrong with this?

A little much, but men do have a responbility and they cannot put all the blame on the women, they need to control their desires.
The issue here is not modesty, but whether the judge should be allowed to see the face to judge a case properly. This women is now in the USA and she must comply by our laws and yes customs in the legal arena. She is free to wear here veil outside the court room.
Frankly, I am glad that is very, very, very, very rare in my city and many of my Turkish Muslim students did not agree with the wearing of a veil, most.

The judge must see the face to determine the verdict!!!
This is a clash of cultures and I can see it getting worse and worse but I hope not.