so, the Stupid Nationalism

My favorite nationalism is East Asian nationalism...its just SOOO DUMB!  Didnt  the Japanese occupation teach them anything?  I guess not.  The unspeakable acts done in the name of nationalism all start from silly little claims and verboise hyperbole.

yea, do you believe this is a history book? I believe it made by the nationalist.

just look at this pictue, do you feel it is right about Korean land? And the book says Koreans were from Middle east, they dominated the Huang-river culture....

OK I don't know about the Huang-river culture and crap and the middle east stuff is nationalistic..I agree...the map though can be justified.

Jeju-do, then Tamna was a tributary state of Baekje so that's ok.

Here's the bit on Baekje in Shangdong taken from the Baekje Article in Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baekje

The boundaries of Baekje control shifted substantially through the centuries. According to Chinese chronicles, Baekje rule during the time of King Geunchogo extended to the Shandong peninsula in present-day China, but it's not clear. At this time Baekje controlled almost the entire coastline of the West Sea (or Yellow Sea). However, the area under Baekje control soon contracted under pressure from Goguryeo and Silla.

The Japanese part is a bit harder to justify.  We do know the bloodlines of the Yamato court and Baekje were related.  The map seems to be playing off of the Horserider invasion theory which some scholars do prescribe to.  It's very much probable that Baekje had a large impact and influence on Japan at this time and one could make the argument that they were the De Facto rulers of Japan.



About Koguryo attacking Tang...I am sure Koguryo attacked Tang a few times...not so sure who won and all...so I can't comment on that....

Overall assessment:  Yes it is nationalistic, but not all of it is lies.

Originally posted by ChineseManchurian True, not all is lie, but it is ... you know, this post put on a Chinese website, people are translated them. almost all the Chinese were get so mad, I think nationalism is good, but not good too aggrandize a nation. I know some Chinese were nationalism also, but they are not crazy like this post, at least Chinese history book never say China have dominated the world.

this comes and goes....when the chinese claimed koguryo the koreans were furious too....and many chinese books take a very nationalistic view as well.

everyone has nationalistic crap.. i don't see what makes this special..

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lol, i guess the admiral Yi section didn't need any exagerration

lol "tributary"

Well tang did eventually destroy Koguryo with some help, but that clearly wouldnt account for the entire Korean penninsula now would it?

 

for the first map that Dangun Wanggeom  put, isn't that koryo dynasty.... ~_~;;; .....  i think that thoes maps are @##%$ stupid...

ehh sorry... my bad.. anyway i was asking about the part of korea that is supposed to be part of ming


Edited by chaeohk

....i was asking if the dynasty in korea on that map is koryo....