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Wasn't it an attack by Mycenaean raiders?
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Interesting names have been found in Hittite texts, mentioning localities such as  "Ahhiyawa" (Achaia?), Wilusa (Ilios), Miliwata (Miletus?), personages such as Tawagalawa (Eteocles, from *E-tewoclewes), Alaksandu (Alexandros, another name for Paris), etc. 

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was TROY a civil war???


Definitely not! Trojans were foreign to the Greeks...
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Originally posted by pekau

It is most likely due to the Greek's attemt to monopolize the Western Medditeranean Sea and to end the economical and military competiton, as Segestan pointed out.
 
Just a question, Greeks united to invade Troy. Didn't Troy had any allies in the Asia Minor? Did they get any help from other cities nearby? Did the Trojans stayed behind the walls, or did they fight in the beaches in the beginning?

Some of Troy's more exotic allies included the Amazons and Ethiopians. They were fierce warriors but no match for Achilles
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Originally posted by olvios

Trojan side=hellenic nation+Achaean side=Hellenic nation=War=Hellenic nations at war=Civil war.
 
I don't get this equation. What's the antiderivative of this?LOL
     
   
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Originally posted by britani

surley it was no a real greek civil war

pompe trogue says: pelop brought from frigia his nation to this land and to honor of him this was called pelopones .......werent frigians at both sides according to this point of view?!
 
What are you talking about? Peloponessos took its name from Pelopas. You know Mykines?Wacko

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Trojan side=hellenic nation+Achaean side=Hellenic nation=War=Hellenic nations at war=Civil war.
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Go read the Iliad read  greek and latin texts and stop with you r gibberish.You dont have the basic faculties of logic.
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surley it was no a real greek civil war

pompe trogue says: pelop brought from frigia his nation to this land and to honor of him this was called pelopones .......werent frigians at both sides according to this point of view?!
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Dionysius of Halicarnassus (1.6162) states that Dardanus' original home was in Arkadia thus Dardanians were at  most ancient times greeks.He was the ancestor of the Dardanians of the Troad and, through Aeneas, of the Romans.
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Homer does not refer any translators btw the Greeks and the Troyans.
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It was a civil war between hellenic nations.Thankou all.Also reading the iliad would help you .
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On Trojans as they were mentioned

Dionisios Allicarnassus-(Roman archaeology .a'61 k.ex)
<<And the trojan nation hellenic from peloponisos came forth>>
Διονυσιος Ο Αλλικαρνασευς (Ρωμ.Αρχ.α'61κ.εξ.)
<<...και το Τρωων εθνος ελληνικον ην εκ πελοπονησου ποτε ωρμημενων >>

Agon Homer & hesiod,Papyrus III,dublin 1891,page 70)
<<And the Trojan genos is Hellenic from the start>>
Αγων Ομηρου και Ησιοδου,Παπυρος ΙΙΙ,Δουβλ. 1891 σελ 70)
<<και το Τρωικον γενος ελληνικον αρχηθεν ην>>

and britani really your posts lack any evidence or logic.Only albanian nazi propaganda
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by the way i suggest you to buy the book that recently was published in france and has made a great disscussion there....
it is called albanians and the odisse of a prehelen nation
 
it will help us for this teme, dont miss the chance to read it
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whats the problem flipper?!
 
what i am saying is only my opinion and not the liburni"s one
and by my opinion it was a civil war
its not my foult that i am an albanian like liburni
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