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QuoteReplyTopic: From Sahara to Gobi Posted: 24-Feb-2007 at 10:28
As I've been appointed mod without being a common user of the steppe
forum, I thought it fit to present my views on history via a post about
one of the writers I admire the most: Abou Zid Ribad al-Roukhimini
Moukhamad Bin Khaldun al-Khadharimy, better known as Ibn Khaldun. He
was a Berber stateman and historian who arguably has created modern
social sciences. For instance, he had a lasting influence on the
Annales school of thought via Fernand Braudel who was a great admirer
of his work.
Ibn Khaldun most important contribution is al-Muqqadimah, an history of
North Africa written in 1377, whose introduction, al-Kitab al-Iba, the
book of advices, gives his methodology. Ibn Khaldun had a moral and
cyclical vision of history. He divided the people between nomads and
urbans and assumed the rulers and their dynasty had a crucial part to
play.
In his view, because of luxury rulers were banned to become weak and
feminine. On the countrary, nomads because of their lifestyle remained
strong and pure. After a short while, necessarily, the nomads would
overtake the urban dynasty and impose a new ruler. But after three
generations, the new dynasty would become weak as well and would be
overtaken by new nomads.
Ibn Khaldun assumed this system of selection allowed to preserve a
overall well balanced government between nomadic strenght and urban
refinement. But ultimately, these violent process weakened the Muslim
nations and they were forced out of the sea by the Christians.
What Ibn Khaldun brilliantly discribed can be easily expended beyond
his beloved North Africa. In Europe for instance, the role of the
nomads was played by the highlanders. Just think about the Swiss, the
Samites or the Scotts terrorizing the lowlanders and always seen as the
best soldiers. But nowhere does his system applies better than in
Central Asia.
The point I'm trying to make is that many Steppes forumers are
concerned by questions such as who did it, "Uzbeck or Kirgiz?" more
than why did they do it. Are questions such as "was this tribe 100%
turkic?" really important? Look at Ibn Khaldun, the topic he was
considering was plagued by tribal, religious and ethnic divisions but
he managed to find some coherence in all that mess.
What were the structures of the nomadic lives? What endogenous changes
affected the steppe peoples? How did they react to exogenous shocks?
"You know how the power of the Arabs was established when they became united in their religion in following their Prophet. As for the Turks... in their group solidarity, no king on earth can be compared with them, not Chosroes nor Caesar nor Alexander nor Nebuchadnezzar."Ibn Khaldun, the man who met Timur (Tamerlane)
Ibn Khaldun knew "Turkistan" pretty well.
You could also try reading Ibn Battuta's travels, Ibn Fadlan, Babur's autobiography and Timur's biography, they give a good insight into general life in the region at that time.
What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.
Albert Pine
Difference being that Ibn Khaldun was a groundbreaking theorician while Ibn Battuta was a traveler, interesting indeed, but merely following a centuries old tradition in the Muslim world.
Seems that you missed the point.
Besides, ultimately Ibn Khaldun was desapointed by Timur.
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