God vs Science

Originally posted by JanusRook Zaitsev, now you are just arguing on a subjective perception and not an objective fact. ... The objective opinion is that both are qualified individuals to convene in such an interview and both did admirably well in their arguements, although personally think Dawkins is a douchebag, but then again that's subjective.

Perhaps it is subjective, but so is the nature of any credential. GCLE, I did not say academic, I specifically said science. Regardless the point is hardly important.

I have to disagree with you JanusRook. I think they both did very poorly in their arguments. They were obviously both avoiding getting into anything too significant. I find it odd that Dawkins actually said that God exists, just he didn't know which one. It was obviously just a personal jab, and not intended to be taken too seriously, but it is certainly quite interesting.

Yes, but you're not Dawkins.

Ha! As a deist- I don't see a conflict! Read Spinoza's Ethics - God is a product of man trying to comprehend the infinity of science. The various kinds of god that man is worshipping are just different guises of that one concept with various cultural masks to make it more accesable for the people that are worshipping it. Frankly, what is being fought over is the culture which is attached to what is ultimatley the same concept- nothing much else. The culture has become so firmly implemented over the concept, that the people who are practicing the religion simply can't see that it is fundamentally the same concept. God is infinity, I believe in the holiness of infinate knowledge and believe in the pursuit of that knowledge. I believe that the pursuit of that knowledge is a great and holy undertaking. That sense of wonder "the einstein religion" (as Dawkins called it) is God at it's most basic. THAT is what I believe in- the bare essentials of god which is simply man's capacity to explore in infinate ocean of knowledge. The form in which that has been worshipped or the ego which that has been given is irrelivant to me and other pan-deists like me.

Edited by Earl Aster - 16-Jul-2007 at 14:52

Originally posted by elenos Nah! Green teapot? what rubbish. Like Linus I believe in the giant pumpkin!

Elenos, I feel I must correct your manifest, and soul destroying heresy. It is not the "giant pumpkin," it is the "Great Pumpkin". Such an error could turn the Pumpkinite world on its head.

-Akolouthos

Hm. I guess we need a clergy if we are going to have a formal penitential process. What do you think? Should we nominate Linus as our Ecumenical Pumpkinite Patriarch?

-Akolouthos

Originally posted by Omar al Hashim This isn't the same Linus as the creator of Linux is it? Because if it is it solves many questions about creation. The world began on Epoch (00:00:00 UTC, January 1, 1970), and will end on 2^(8*sizeof(time_t))

I don't understand most of that, but it is hilarious nonetheless.

-Akolouthos