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    Posted: 06-Jan-2005 at 23:55
As far as I know.

1.  Mongol emperors had the Royal tumen or Keshik/Khishig/Khishigten.

2.  Ottoman Turkish emperors had  Jannisaries

3.  Japanese Daimyos had Hatamoto.

4.  Roman emperors had Praetorians.

5.  British emperors have the Royal Black Watch.

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6. Arabs Caliphate had Al-Jaish/aL-Haras (each Jaish (army) is named after its General).
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7. Persian Shahanshas had Ameretats (Immortal Guards).
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  Quote J.M.Finegold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jan-2005 at 11:17
If you count these as guards:

1.  Hitler had the Gestapo and SS (not the arms of the SS sent to the fronts)
2.  Franco had the Falange
3.  Vatican has the Swiss Guards
4.  The Spanish Kings of today have their Imperial Guard.
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  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jan-2005 at 19:19

Originally posted by El_Bandito

As far as I know.

1.  Mongol emperors had the Royal tumen or Keshik/Khishig/Khishigten.

2.  Ottoman Turkish emperors had  Jannisaries

3.  Japanese Daimyos had Hatamoto.

4.  Roman emperors had Praetorians.

5.  British emperors have the Royal Black Watch.

Please share your knowledge. 

Britain's never had an emperor, unless you count Victoria as an empress. The Black Watch are a scottish regt that are a front line combat unit, currently in Iraq and in peace time guard Edinburgh castle. Not a royal bodyguard unit. The Royal body guards in Britain are the Police and the ceromonial bodyguards are the horse guards.

The Persion bodyguard unit was called the Immortals.

Napoleon had the Old Guard.

Gadaffi has that all female unit. Don;t know their name but, god are they hot.

 



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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Jan-2005 at 12:09
the old guard was just part of the Imperial guard.
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  Quote Jorsalfar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Jan-2005 at 17:41

all or most monarchies today have some kind of a royal guard,have they not?

i believe Varangians were the Byzantine royal guards



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  Quote Sikander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 13:45

   Portuguese Presidents have their Guarda Nacional Republicana (Republican National Guard). The kings had thr Royal Guard (the uniform was pretty much the same).

   The French Kings had the Garde Suisse, and the Spanish had, at a time, a Scotish Guard.

   The Falange was not a garde de corps but a militia. Franco actually had a moorish guard 8he was a colonial officer in Morocco when the war started)

   The Tzars had the Guard Regiments.

   The Gestapolizei (Gestapo) was not a guard de corps units, but the SS were (excluding, of course, the Waffen SS).

 

 

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 13:55

the guard suisse was only part of the royal guard.

 

the Gestapo was not Hitlers guard, neither was the SS. members of the Waffen SS did guard him but he did not have a real guard. there was however a Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler tank division that could be considdered his guard.

 

here's more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibstandarte_Adolf_Hitler



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King Dubya Bush has the secret service
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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jan-2005 at 03:34
The king doesn't have any special guard unit anymore - nor does he need one, since he isn't actually in battle anymore - only those secret service people, which I believe fill the function of the old guards. All units of the army take turns to guard his castles though (sometimes wearing old & silly uniforms: pic, pic). Back in the days when the kings actually were in battle there was the Livdrabantkren, an elite guard unit of 200 handpicked men under his personal command, who were responsible for the safety of the king in the battle.
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  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jan-2005 at 19:52

Originally posted by Temujin

the old guard was just part of the Imperial guard.

Not originally. the Old Guard wasn't renamed the Imperial Guard till 1804 and the Middle and Young guards added even later.

Hun Sen Cambodian prime minister has North Korean guards .



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  Quote J.M.Finegold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jan-2005 at 19:55
Originally posted by Styrbiorn

The king doesn't have any special guard unit anymore - nor does he need one, since he isn't actually in battle anymore - only those secret service people, which I believe fill the function of the old guards. All units of the army take turns to guard his castles though (sometimes wearing old & silly uniforms: pic, pic). Back in the days when the kings actually were in battle there was the Livdrabantkren, an elite guard unit of 200 handpicked men under his personal command, who were responsible for the safety of the king in the battle.


Actually, I've seen that Spanish Imperial Guard for Rey Juan Carlos... I remember when I was like 9 and I saw one and I asked by uncle if that was a colonel and everyone laughed at me
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  Quote El_Bandito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jan-2005 at 22:36
Great, thanks for your replies

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Here's an obscure one for you. During the Chin/Jurchen Dynasty each emperor (and crown prince) had his own elite guard unit called the Ho-cha. Candidates had to be at least 5'5 tall and pass a military test. The most elite members of the Ho-cha were the "close attendants". They were the only Ho-cha members allowed to carry weapons in the emperor's presence. Close attendants had to be at least 5'6 tall.

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Jan-2005 at 12:05
Originally posted by Paul

Not originally. the Old Guard wasn't renamed the Imperial Guard till 1804 and the Middle and Young guards added even later.

Hun Sen Cambodian prime minister has North Korean guards .

the French Guard never had the name Old Guard. the Old Guard was of course the first regiments of the Consular and subsequent Imperial Guard before other regiments were added but the name was never Old Guard for all of the guard at a time.

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  Quote Jagatai Khan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 09:40

2.  Ottoman Turkish emperors had  Jannisaries

Janissaries lived in Istanbul and they were near to the palace but they weren't bodyguards.They were infantry units.

And they must have been the last soldiers protecting the sultan!They killed and changed many sultans with lots of rebellations and massacres.

They establieshed their own empire in Ottoman Empire

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  Quote Infidel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 09:46
That is true. But originally they were intended to pledge loyalty only to the sultan and to guard him with their lives.
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  Quote Komnenos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 12:35
Originally posted by Jorsalfar

i believe Varangians were the Byzantine royal guards

Varangians was originally the collective Byzantine name for Skandinavian settlers in Russia or indigenous Russians themselves. From approx. 900, a large contingent of V. served as mercenaries in the Byzantine army. Under Basil II (976-1025) they became organized as a separate unit in the army, known as the Varangian Guard, but not necessarily as Imperial Body guards. From 1066 onwards the majority of the V. were actually Anglo-Saxons, who had fled England after the Norman conquest, or Vikings from Denmark,Norway or Iceland. Only in the late 11th. century the Varangian Guard became the bodyguard of the Emperor, although they were also employed as regular units in military campaigns. Most prominent member of the Varangian guard was Harald Hadrade, later to become King of Norway, who fell in the battle of Stamford Bridge 1066 and who apparently invented skiing.



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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 12:43
Originally posted by Komnenos

Most prominent member of the Varangian guard was Harald Hadrade, later to become King of Norway, who fell in the battle of<ST1Stamford Bridge1066 and who apparently invented skiing.

He did not invent skiing - a 5,000 year old ski has been found in central Sweden.
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