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    Posted: 11-Jan-2007 at 12:09

Muslim merchants came to China and India, did they go to Japan?Anyone know?
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If they were merchants then it would be trade.
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I think he means the people the traders hmm I gues not because well they left marks on the regions they left like muslim population

in Japan thats not the case so i don't think so
I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage
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Of course there may have been some Muslim traders -and probably many others as well- who made their way to Japan, but the numbers remain negligible as they left no significant or lasting impact.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jan-2007 at 16:54
There were,
 
I don't remember where I saw it, but in an Japanese advertisement of come cars, years ago, I saw they recognized the influence of Arab art in certain Japanese decorative motives. So, a like must existed.
 
There were so many muslim in Middle Ages' China that is almost impossible no one went to Japan to trade.
 
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But, if there was no significant or lasting influence, and if the numbers were extremely small, does it even matter?
 
There are 100,000 Westerners who live in Saudi Arabia today, out of a total population of about 27 million, now does their influence or presence make a difference in everyday Saudi cultural life to the point that we can discern their presence to be significant?


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But did the japanese write down anything about the Muslim traders. Chinese had the record of the Muslim traders.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Jan-2007 at 09:03
Originally posted by The Grim Reaper

But, if there was no significant or lasting influence, and if the numbers were extremely small, does it even matter?
 
There are 100,000 Westerners who live in Saudi Arabia today, out of a total population of about 27 million, now does their influence or presence make a difference in everyday Saudi cultural life to the point that we can discern their presence to be significant?
 
I believe yes. Perhaps they won't change the religion of the locals, but they could influence them in the way of reparing cars by their own, in certrain sports, in the curiosity for science, or the way of organizing teams, and other things that I can't see from here.
 
The presence of foreigners in a country, no matter how small the group, is always important. In Chile, for example, the presence of small colonies of British people during the 19th century changed the country forever, and made it quite different from other Latin countries.
 
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If i was to guess i would say it would be early chinese muslims.
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Although Japan welcomed many foreign trades, the arrival of Europeans made many Japanese samuriai and merchants nervous due to newfound competition. They closed the border, saved for some Dutch and Chinese and Korean traders in Nagasaki.
     
   
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