Debating Saddam

Oyy.. What was going on when he produced those papers "proving" he was Iranian?  I should remember that one for when one day I am invited on a talk show..

Am I the only one that found that video funny?

Originally posted by Balaam Am I the only one that found that video funny?

Well said, but replace Sunni bitterness with BAATHIST bitterness.

This was more a personal mud slinging match between the two men than a debate over Saddam, they even came prepared with documents to discredit eachother. That debate did not illuminate the opinions surrounding Saddam, it only illustrated the deep emotions which follow his demise.

Zagros has a strong point!

Actually the Shia especially Shia Iran have never promoted anti-Sunnism, they want to bridge ties, encourage diologue and promote brotherhood. Unfortunately some "PUPPET" so-called Sunni groups are just taking orders from their puppet masters and will do anything to be anti-Shia.

Iran and Turkey recently have been working to build on Sunni-Shia brotherhood. Infact, Turkey and Azerbaijan is a great example of the fact that Sunni and Shia muslims can be very close and have great relations.

 

Edited by Bulldog - 11-Jan-2007 at 19:12

Iraq was drawn with a ruler, I don't know what your getting all fussed about, are you going to claim to the contrary? Who drew up Iraq, who creted these borders, what history has the state Iraq got as the country Iraq? who stuck these borders between the Arab people? go figure it out...there is no Sunni-Shia divide in ordinary society, its a situation which some puppet forces are trying to create, ooooh the Shia threat. What Shia threat? These so-called Sunni groups are making themselves a mockery and even the average Sunni doesn't want to associate with such groups. I'm in no-way suggestion "Iraq" the area doesn't have a rich history, I mean common  it has practically one of the richest documented histories in the world.

Edited by Bulldog - 11-Jan-2007 at 23:55

Originally posted by seko What does this suppose to mean? Aside from internal conflicts with seperatists, Cyprus of 1974 and Korea before, Turkey has not been in any other meaningful war. (The last days of declaring war on Nazi Germany in WWII doesn't really count).

I was referring to Kurds, and a possible Turkish excursion into Northern Iraq, there was an article in the last december issue of the economist on Turkey...

Originally posted by bulldog Who said anything about "clobbering", I clearly stated that Iran and Turkey has experience with such issues and could work to help the situation.   Your pathetic attempt to twist and manipulate words in order to make this all about "Armenia" is embarassing, well I hope they don't act like Armenia in Karabagh.

you know...you are pretty good at jumping you guns about Armenia. Armenia has nothing to do with Iraq, nor was I mentioning or intending to mention Armenia...

Turkey is a secular country, what experience does it have? Whereas Iran is the exact opposite...

Originally posted by bulldog Well there Ottoman archives which documented the war 400-500 years ago and then the peace between Iran and the Ottoman Empire. Tips could be taken from history as it often repeats itself.

There were repeated wars betwen the Ottoman Empire and the successive Persians Empires

Originally posted by bulldog Also Azerbaycan and Turkey's relations are prime examples that Shia and Sunni Muslims can get along.

Maybe because they are both secular and both are Turkic (as well as a "grand" enemy...and yes here I am talking about Armenia)

Originally posted by bulldog Iran has been promoting and trying to spread dialogue among the main two muslim groups.

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