Is Atheism wrong?

cannot exist in a world that is evil under his control.

But the world is not evil, only human interactions with each other and within themselves are evil. Evil is a by-product of humanity, not of God. That is why I think evil is indirectly attributed to God, since he knew that we would cause evil in the world. He is All-Good and All-Loving because he allowed us to exist even if we cause evil.

Guys,nobody can really proove if God exists  or not.Both parties have right and wrong at the same time.

Not if you ask St. Augustine of Hippo he doesn't let people choose their destiny for themselves. He is the source of the "Puritan Dilema" or Prelasarian Predestination.

I'm pretty sure it's embraced by certain Catholic sects as well as Protestant sects. This was really big in the 16th C. it was preached heavily by John Calvin a major influence on the Puritans.

They are the same thing. They both presume to have the answer to a question that nobody can honestly know.

Originally posted by Emperor Barbarossa Then why flood entire world as shown by the Great Flood? How can God be mad at people for disobeying his wishes when he already knew they would disobey him? Also, how can an All-Good and All-Powerful God allow humans to do evil to other humans. That contradicts the very premise of the God being good and being able to stop evil.

Originally posted by Constantine XI Originally posted by Mixcoatl Originally posted by Kalevipoeg And  by the way, does anyone know a good way to get rid of a Jehovas witness or a Mormon trying to hassle you on the streets. Is there a special line for that? Of course you can say you are already a Jehova's witness. But then again you run the risk that they ask you to take over today's converting tour. I said I was a Muslim, you should have seen the guy backoff

Ok, in a thread in which is being debated the existance of God (even if it is off topic), allow me, as I do occasionally, to cut the crap.
Don't you think its prudent to see what God had to say on the issue?

Is it a matter of wonderment to men that We have sent Our inspiration to a man from among themselves?- that he should warn mankind (of their danger), and give the good news to the Believers that they have before their Lord the lofty rank of truth. (But) say the Unbelievers: "This is indeed an evident sorcerer!" [10:2]

Generations before you We destroyed when they did wrong: their messengers came to them with clear-signs, but they would not believe! thus do We requite those who sin! Then We made you heirs in the land after them, to see how ye would behave! But when Our Clear Signs are rehearsed unto them, those who rest not their hope on their meeting with Us, Say: "Bring us a reading other than this, or change this," Say: "It is not for me, of my own accord, to change it: I follow naught but what is revealed unto me: if I were to disobey my Lord, I should myself fear the penalty of a Great Day (to come)." Say: "If Allah had so willed, I should not have rehearsed it to you, nor would He have made it known to you. A whole life-time before this have I tarried amongst you: will ye not then understand?" Who doth more wrong than such as forge a lie against Allah, or deny His Signs? But never will prosper those who sin. [10:13-17]

The whole principle of atheism relies on God not providing proof, and as has been pointed out can be disproven with proof of the existance of God. Thus atheism is disproven! God has written a book. What more proof can you possibly want? No-one doubts the existance of Anna Komenos, all she did was write a book, no-one doubts the existance of Karl Marx, all he did was write a book. What sort of proof do you want? Do you want God's personal messenger to come to you and explain everything to you in person?

Had it been Our Will, We could have sent a warner to every centre of population. [25:51]

Or will you claim "Muhammed made it up" as no doubt most will. An argument which relies on the lack of knowledge more than any other evidence. We have Muhammed's (pbuh) sayings in the Hadies, which if anyone realises, are a world apart from the Quran in what they say, how they say it, and with the accuracy that they do. No genuine scientific study is about to claim that the Quran and the Hadies are from the same source, but nevertheless, people are willing to claim it to provide false justification to their status quo.
Not to mention that while the bible rarely ventures into science, and recieves alot of critisim when it does, the Quran often ventures into science, in areas that Muhammed could not have possibly know about, and never makes a mistake. I've even looked up anti-muslim websites to see what they've got, and its still nothing that takes more mental effort than reading in context to expose its riduclousness. If our worse enemies cannot find a mistake, then surely there is not one.

So I do call to witness what ye see, And what ye see not, That this is verily the word of an honoured messenger; It is not the word of a poet: little it is ye believe! Nor is it the word of a soothsayer: little admonition it is ye receive. (This is) a Message sent down from the Lord of the Worlds. And if the messenger were to invent any sayings in Our name, We should certainly seize him by his right hand, And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart: Nor could any of you withhold him (from Our wrath). But verily this is a Message for the Allah-fearing. And We certainly know that there are amongst you those that reject (it). But truly (Revelation) is a cause of sorrow for the Unbelievers. But verily it is Truth of assured certainty. So glorify the name of thy Lord Most High. [69:38-52]

If anyone rejects Christianity on the basis of logic and deduction, then surely they must accept Islam on the same principles. If on the other hand, anyone rejects Christianity on the basis on "because", then that is an argument that cannot be disproven.

Originally posted by Omar al Hashim Not to mention that while the bible rarely ventures into science, and recieves alot of critisim when it does, the Quran often ventures into science, in areas that Muhammed could not have possibly know about, and never makes a mistake.

Which areas are you talking about here? Ive never read the Quran and would like to know... Also you can't really say that God has written a book where every religion out there with a holy scripture guide specifically states that what's written is the "word of God". Of course that hasn't been written by God and has been edited by whoever wrote it.

there's a place for everyone in jesus's plan of things.

http://www.naturist-christians.org/index.php