Is Atheism wrong?

Oh God, I can just feel all other members ready to stone me... Oh well, too late now.

Ok, I was just wondering about this fault regarding atheism belief:

If one is to declare that there is no God with 100% accuracy, then that person must have the infinite knowledge. (That is, the person must know everything in the universe) But wait a tick, does that not mean that the person who declared that there's no God is... God?

Yes.





Do you mean wrong as in not true, or wrong as in a sin?

The latter can only be answered by the former. Since if the former is true then you subscribe to the moral code that makes the latter true, however if you don't accept the former then you don't accept the moral code that outlaws the latter either. Unless of course you find me a religion that encourages you not to believe in it.

I believe, in the context of this thread, that pekau meant that is atheism correct (right) or incorrect (wrong).

Originally posted by pekau If one is to declare that there is no God with 100% accuracy, then that person must have the infinite knowledge.

Really? And why is that?

Originally posted by pekau Oh God, I can just feel all other members ready to stone me... Oh well, too late now. Ok, I was just wondering about this fault regarding atheism beleif: If one is to declare that there is no God with 100% accuracy, then that person must have the infinite knowledge. (That is, the person must know everything in the universe) But wait a tick, does that not mean that the person who declared that there's no God is... God?

Edited by Tobodai - 01-Jan-2007 at 22:16

Im saying many people DO believe in un-belief as a faith, I am not one of them but there are many.

Originally posted by Paul Why is it that religious people cast atheism in their own image? � Personally as an athiest. not only do I not believe god does not exist. I've never ever even thought about god in my entire life and see no good reason ever to do so.

Well, I think that's slightly too harsh. God, whether if He is real or not, brought many good things to humanity. Many people, in the edge of destruction (Drug abuse, self-guilt, etc.), were able to get out of the trouble and live a better life because of their faith. Mankind likes to question if their life could be something more meaningful, something better, something that could help them to become great, etc. I know many people who changed for the better because they believed in a religion.

Of course, I am not saying that religions are always a good thing. Religion also brought so much death and destruction. We are witnessing it right now in Israel and Arabic borders. But I do not think that honest people who have religion is the problem. The extremist, or other people who cannot accept others is the problem, not the religion. I, as a Christian, have many friends who have different religion... or none at all. We debate about it sometimes, but we are quite tolerant about it.

Oh, and you are really from North Korea... are you??

Although I do consider myself a nihilist which in a sense is related to atheism simply being atheistic is not good. Atheists and the religous alike are both just as fearful of God, the latter spending their whole lives praying to Him while the previous spending their lives convicing themselves that he isn't there. Nihilism instead says: "I don't care if God is there or not, I want to take matters in my own hand" which is a much braver way to confront reality.

Originally posted by pekau And Paul, I am sure that you could become a moderator soon. I said this because you seem to be quite angry about it...