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    Posted: 16-Feb-2012 at 02:00
These old masajid and places are worship are still being used by the public, which is why they are constantly extended and renovated


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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Feb-2012 at 19:03
Had it survived the earthquake that destroyed it in 1303, the Pharos would qualify as one of the oldest mosques. The Parthenon at Athens would be another possible candidate

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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Nov-2011 at 19:54
In England one of the oldest mosques started life as a church for Huguenots. It became a synagogue in the 19th century and was converted into a mosque when Asian immigrants replaced the earlier Jewish community after the war
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  Quote Cryptic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Nov-2011 at 10:25
Originally posted by Parashuraman

The mosque was originally a temple and retained that structure for more than a millennium, but the custodians wanted it to look like a proper mosque in the last century, so drastically altered it.

Here's another mosque from the same time period, the Malik Deenar Juma Masjid, which was also originally a temple, but still has the same temple look today, built in around 640 AD:
 
Thank you for the information. I just assumed that the restoration was Saudi influenced, yet it turns out that it was done in the last century.  I  like the look of the Masjid much better.   Hopefully,  no more historical Keralan mosques will be altered to look like "proper" mosques.  As a side note, I saw many mosques in Guinee that looked like miniature Gothic churches.  I think the locals were influenced by French Archeitects.


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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Nov-2011 at 20:33
Germany:Berlim Mosque

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_Mosque_Berlin

Ireland:Dublin Mosque

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Mosque

they are the oldest in thier countries




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  Quote Parashuraman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Nov-2011 at 19:28
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Cheraman Juma Masjid - One of the oldest mosques in India built in 629 AD according to the plaque in front of the building, situated in Kodungallur in the southern Indian state of Kerala.

Here's what it used to look like.....
 
Now....
 
Yikes, why did they totally alter the appereance?  Does the  building in the first photo have a traditional south Indian archetectural design?  Meanwhile the building in the second photo looks like somebody "restored" the first one by transplanting a mosque from the middle east.
 
I wonder if this was done because the Saudis financed the "restoration"?  IF so, it is very unforutunate that local archetecture could not be kept.  I like the variety shown in older Chinese mosques (chinese design) and Circassian mosques (look like churches).
 
 


The mosque was originally a temple and retained that structure for more than a millennium, but the custodians wanted it to look like a proper mosque in the last century, so drastically altered it.


Here's another mosque from the same time period, the Malik Deenar Juma Masjid, which was also originally a temple, but still has the same temple look today, built in around 640 AD:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Deenar_Mosque
http://malikdeenarmasjid.com/




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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Nov-2011 at 19:13
There's not much left of the original structure. Perhaps it was rebuilt to accommodate larger congregations
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  Quote Cryptic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Nov-2011 at 08:34
Originally posted by Parashuraman

Cheraman Juma Masjid - One of the oldest mosques in India built in 629 AD according to the plaque in front of the building, situated in Kodungallur in the southern Indian state of Kerala.

Here's what it used to look like.....
 
Now....
 
Yikes, why did they totally alter the appereance?  Does the  building in the first photo have a traditional south Indian archetectural design?  Meanwhile the building in the second photo looks like somebody "restored" the first one by transplanting a mosque from the middle east.
 
I wonder if this was done because the Saudis financed the "restoration"?  IF so, it is very unforutunate that local archetecture could not be kept.  I like the variety shown in older Chinese mosques (chinese design) and Circassian mosques (look like churches).
 
 
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Nov-2011 at 19:25
The Saudis sound almost as strict as their Islamist enemies. Maybe the next king will be more open-minded and allow archaeologists to return?
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  Quote Arab Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Nov-2011 at 16:30
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That's terrible. They should be preserving their ancient buildings as these are the things that attract touristsDisapprove


Haha, Saudi Arabia won't even allow archeologists to excavate in the country, because it might cause people to "stray away from Islam". Sad really. Who knows what treasures lie hidden beneath the sands of the desert.

Anyway, here is the oldest mosque in my country, the Khamis Mosque, built about a thousand years ago. It's in pretty bad shape at the moment.


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  Quote Parashuraman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Nov-2011 at 22:55
Cheraman Juma Masjid - One of the oldest mosques in India built in 629 AD according to the plaque in front of the building, situated in Kodungallur in the southern Indian state of Kerala.

Here's what it used to look like:




Now:




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheraman_Juma_Masjid


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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Nov-2011 at 22:08
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That's terrible. They should be preserving their ancient buildings as these are the things that attract touristsDisapprove


It is terrible for me as a Turk. However countries and people should protect their historical past, firstly for theirselves not for foreign people like tourists and in Saudi case, it is not a misunderstanding, not protecting the ancient building is a kind of belief or culture in Saudi

" Wahhabi religious policy that emphasizes the Oneness of God (Tawhid) and entirely rejects the worship of divine proxies to God or even the practices and habits which might lead to idolatry and polytheistic association"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_early_Islamic_heritage_sites








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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Nov-2011 at 19:04
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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Nov-2011 at 05:40
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

Unfortunately Saudis give no value to the historical buildings, old mosques of Mecca, Medina and other cities of Saudi Arabia have been completely destroyed and new ones have been built.


Yes, I agree you. There is no value for historical buildings

I remember that Turkey and Turkish citizen got angry when Saudi decided to destory Ottoman Castle in Mecca

This castle wasn't anymore Ajyad Castle(1781-2002/R.I.P.)


                                                                    this complex is building on castle's hill
 

Now we have just this 1/25 scale model of the castle


I am angry with the saudi government, but when I try to think as a saudi, this is a bit acceptable.

Saudi didn't add much things in Arab world. Arab's empires reached the top in Egypt, in Iraq and in Spain, not in Arabia. That's why I don't hope them a culture of protection history and I guess,  current perspective is based on bedevi culture in saudi so you can't wait them to respect for historical buildings, their perspective is just function. This culture ia a result of living in desert and tough enviroment, you can't develop unnecessary emotions with your items, so I am angry but I can understand. 



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Unfortunately Saudis give no value to the historical buildings, old mosques of Mecca, Medina and other cities of Saudi Arabia have been completely destroyed and new ones have been built.
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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Nov-2011 at 20:52
Originally posted by Nick1986

I'd have thought the mosque at Mecca would have been pretty old.


The first İslamic city is not Mecca, it is Medina, so the oldest mosque is also in this city: Quba Mosque
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quba_Mosque


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the first mosque:Habib-i Neccar Mosque in Antakya/Antioch

 
the first turkish mosque:Ebul Manucehr Mosque in Ani (Medieval Armenian Capital, near Armenia-Turkey Border)-1072

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I'd have thought the mosque at Mecca would have been pretty old. What exactly is inside the Kaaba?
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It was the Red Mosque of Berat. But that was blwon to bit, anyway. It would have to be between these two Mosques



Only the structure on the right is the mosque, the other two are churches.



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Its called "Xhamia e Vlores" it was built by the same man who built the Blue Mosque in Istanbul. In Albanian btw, "xhami" equals mosque. There an old saying in Albanian
"burri ne shtepi, eshte si dreqi ne Xhami"
"The man at home, is like the devil in the Mosque."
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It was the Red Mosque of Berat. But that was blwon to bit, anyway. It would have to be between these two Mosques



Only the structure on the right is the mosque, the other two are churches.



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Its called "Xhamia e Vlores" it was built by the same man who built the Blue Mosque in Istanbul. In Albanian btw, "xhami" equals mosque. There an old saying in Albanian
"burri ne shtepi, eshte si dreqi ne Xhami"
"The man at home, is like the devil in the Mosque.
Albanian Proverb from the South
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