What do you think happened on 9/11?

The people who do not believe the governments version of the events of 9/11 are commonly called conspiracy theorists. But given the eye witness accounts and the evidence and the extremely suspicious actions of the government it is very difficult at least for me to dismiss their opinions. I have been looking at some video regarding the 9/11 events and at the commission report, and there seem to be so many inconsistencies, that I cannot help but wonder whether the 9/11 commission report is really a truthful representation of what took place on that tragic day. What do you believe?

 Here are some strange facts that make at least me very suspicious:

1. The most compelling peace of evidence that made me seriously question the 9/11 Commission report is the "disappearance" of WTC7. I have been on ground zero, and the building has now been quickly rebuilt, bur right after 9/11 this skyscraper half the hight of WTC1/2 simply collapsed onto its own blueprint. I mean the building was literally physically missing, and yet not a single word was uttered on its collapse on any of the mainstram media outlets. Many people to this date still think that only two building collapsed during Sept. 11th. As Silverstein himself admitted building #7 was pulled down. Who pulled it down and why? Pulling down of a building requires weeks of preparation and careful placing of the dynamite? Was the dynamite placed in advance? Why was all the evidence removed after the collapse?

You can watch the collapse videos here:
http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html

It is absolute clear that the building collapses in an orderly clean way. No building has ever in the entire human history collapsed straight down as a result of a random structural failure. In order for a building to collapse in this way all of its supporting columns must be destroyed simultaneously.


WTC#7 is the building right in front of the twin towers.

2. There is a man who claimed he met three of the Sept. 11 hijackers in Shreveport a year before the attacks and was ready to testify in court. Now this man, Dr Graham, is dead. His family claims he was poisoned and died due a sudden organ failure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eroIbHpfgOo
This video is from the local KTBS3 station. None of the mainstream media has reported on the incident.

3. There appears to have been "war games" taking place on Sept. 11th 2001 in the New York area. It is claimed that these war games empaired NORAD's ability to intercept the hijacked planes, which they though were operating in a mock operation. The closest someone came to asking the Pentagon on whether there indeed were such operations was Rep. McKinney. You can watch it here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2102260021948650345#06m15s
McKinney has been since then a victim of a media smear campaign and her political career has ended.

4. And there is all the claims of the physical impossibility of the building at a free fall as it did, the the fact that the gravitiational energy of the building is not sufficient to pulvarize the building as it did, etc. which can be read here:

http://911research.wtc7.net/papers/index.htmlp

5. Most of the physical evidence was either (a) removed and destroyed as soon as possible or (b) withheld by the government for no apparent reason, eg the video tapes (all 88 of them) that they confiscated of the supposed plane hitting the Pentagon. Another example is the firefighters' tapes which they said didn't exist because their radios had malfunctioned, but some firefighters rebelled and leaked the tapes anyway. Why would the government lie about such a seemingly trivial point, unless there was something to cover up? Another example is that all the steal debris was immediately exported to third world countries where it was melted.


And finally around half of New Yorkers believe that the 9/11 that Bush administration had foreknowledge of the 9/11 events, and more than 60% want the investigation to be reopened.




Edited by bg_turk - 27-Dec-2006 at 19:01

Originally posted by Liudovik_Nemski There's also a theory that all the jews who were working there were called to go out a little time before the attack.I don't know if exactly this is true but i'm sure it wasn't as everyone says it is.

Such tapes could easily be reworked anyway.

People usually dimiss all of these doubts simply because of how outrageously audacious and fantastic they are, I have heard some commentators label this as the Neo-Con Crystal Nacht, subsequent legislation practically becoming the vehicle for a coup d'etat.

Originally posted by bg_turk It is ridiculous. WT7 is no longer there. What happened to it? How did it collapse?

I just construed a conspiracy theory. Perhaps its owner had prior knowledge of the attacks and had the charges placed in secret to claim insurance! ;)

I can't think why it would be brought down intentionally.

Conspiracy theories in regards to 9/11 abound. What exactly hit the Pentagon? A plane? A Missile? It went through successive walls like only a projectile could. Have you heard about the seismograph at Columbia University that recorded a HUGE spike seconds before the spikes of the collapse? According to the theory, it was a small nuclear detonation; that is the reason why the core of the wreckage remained too hot to even be approached for days after: the heat of the small explosion. The large steel pieces were immediately shipped off in barges when cool enough to load before any demolition orother experts had any chance to look at them.
Theories as I said abound; question is what you want to believe.   

Watch this and tell me that you still believe it was not a cover up.

Improbable Collapse - the Demolition of Our Republic

After watching this documentary, it would be criminal for anybody to not to demand answers from the government.


The first stage is denial.
The second stage, anger.
The third stage, acceptance laced with anger and disappointment and sadness.
The fourth, final acceptance.



Edited by bg_turk - 27-Dec-2006 at 23:50

Like I said, just too outrageous to even consider, so it gets ignored.

Originally posted by Mixcoatl No I don't. I said they demolished it because it was damaged beyond repair, which implies that it was done intentionally.

Mixcoatl you seem to know nothing about WTC7. For one I would like to see a source for your assertions that the building was "damaged beyond repair"?
 

No, but that's because never in the entire human history have big airplanes crashed into scryscrapers.

A plane hit a high rise building in New York just last month and it did not collapse.
Even if we are to assume you are correct, never in the entire human history has assymetric damage to a building let to a symmetric collapse. All 3 buildings on 9/11 collapsed symmetrically straight down in a way that is absolutely consistent with controlled demolition and absolutely inconsistent with the assymetric damage caused by the air planes or the falling debris.
 

Oh come on, this is just a word play. Nobody says the terrorists were desert peasants. Most of them were well educated, and they have an extremely rich leader.

Those who committed the act were terrorists and well educated indeed. They basically succeeded in decapitating the US military headquarters and flew their planes for at least an hour in one of the most protected air spaces of the USA towards arguable one of the most protected buildings in the world.
Who were those terrorists? What evidence is there, apart from the word of Bush and Cheney,  that implicates Bin Laden in the 911 attacks? Even the FBI admits that there is not sufficient evidence to charge Bin Laden with 9/11 so they are looking for him because of the Tanzania bombings.

The simple truth is that there is no evidence to link Osama bin Laden to the 9/11 attacks. Many of the supposed "terrorists" that flew the planes into the buildings are in fact still well and alive:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm
No satisfactory answer has been given to date as to why these people are still alive? Mistaken identity you might say. Ok, but then who were the actual terrorists who were in the plane?

I really don't like the way 9/11 was abused by the neocon leadership, but all those conspiracy theories are simply preposterous.

Preposterous is the inability to answer some very simple questions:

How did WTC7 collapse? Why does the government deny it was controlled demolition? And why is the collapse of this land mark Manhattan building not even mention-worthy in the 9/11 commission report?

Why was there molten steal at the 9/11 site for weeks after the events as documented by NASA satelites? What (if not explosives) heated the steal to the melting point to create these pools of metal?

Why did FDNY personnel report explosions in the lower levels of the twin towers before the initiation of their collapse?

The 9/11 catastrophe was arguably one of the worst catastrophes since Pearl Harbor, and no one would disagree that it deserves a thorough investigation. The collapse of the twin towers represented the most mysterious engineering failures in history with profound implications for the safety of high rising buildings. And yet no independent investigation was funded. The only investigation was that by FEMA (Federal Emergency Agency ) with a budget of a meager $600,000 (compare with the $355 million spend on studying the disintegration of the Columbia Shuttle, or the $100 million for the Monica Lewinsky scandal).

If not an outright act of complicity, the government failed criminally to investigate the events that took place on 9/11. There are just too many unanswered questions to trust the official story. Why is the government refusing to answer them? Why? Why? Why? I just want answers.



Edited by bg_turk - 29-Dec-2006 at 12:20

Originally posted by bg_turk A plane hit a high rise building in New York just last month and it did not collapse.

 

Edited by Styrbiorn - 30-Dec-2006 at 19:20