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Topic: mongols again(mongols invasion in russia) Posted: 21-Dec-2006 at 15:05 |
hi all i am from ukraine kiev i like history and now i create new mod about mongolo-tatars invasion on russian and european lands. my forums here: http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=42747&page=13 http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=285
**edited due to copy/pasting art without permission**
Edited by Seko - 25-Dec-2006 at 11:36
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Posted: 21-Dec-2006 at 15:17 |
Edited by Seko - 25-Dec-2006 at 11:37
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choyhona
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Posted: 22-Dec-2006 at 00:31 |
Vlad3339, How is ukraine???
Nihai bla ho slo vate tebai boh.
bog lubete tebai :)
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Posted: 22-Dec-2006 at 03:01 |
Ukraine is ok
thx
soon more new pictures
and i hope soon too- great mod Mongolo Tatars Invasion (for game Medieval 2)
Edited by vlad3339 - 22-Dec-2006 at 03:01
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Posted: 22-Dec-2006 at 11:13 |
Actually,the invaders of Ukraine was Tatar-Kipchak Turks under Mongol rule
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Posted: 22-Dec-2006 at 13:14 |
ukraine is a beautiful country, people in ukraine are so nice.
God bless ukraine...
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Posted: 23-Dec-2006 at 15:01 |
((((((((,the invaders of Ukraine was Tatar-Kipchak Turks under Mongol rule)))))))
he-he-he
if you mean 1238-1240 yaer
1)first IN THIS PERIOD no any turks IN MONGOLIAN ARMY
2)second in mongolian army 150 000 mongols soldiers(HORSMEN), and almost 150 000 -200 000 soldiers another nations from steppe:
(kipchaks,bulgars,mordva,kasogi,polovci and some others nations)
mongols rule khan BATU.
MAY BE YOU MEAN TJYRKISH TRIBES??(nomad mongoloid tribes from asia)
turks -this is turks seldjyks
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Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 06:44 |
The architecture of Medieval Eastern European cities,as depicted in the imeges, is very interesting.
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Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 09:45 |
Originally posted by vlad3339
((((((((,the invaders of Ukraine was Tatar-Kipchak Turks under Mongol rule)))))))
he-he-he if you mean 1238-1240 yaer 1)first IN THIS PERIOD no any turks IN MONGOLIAN ARMY 2)second in mongolian army 150 000 mongols soldiers(HORSMEN), and almost 150 000 -200 000 soldiers another nations from steppe: (kipchaks,bulgars,mordva,kasogi,polovci and some others nations) mongols rule khan BATU.
MAY BE YOU MEAN TJYRKISH TRIBES??(nomad mongoloid tribes from asia) turks -this is turks seldjyks |
You are celary false,Ghengisid armies were mainly Turkic.Seljuks are only Oghuz Turks,Turk are steppe nomadic(Huns,kipchaks vs vs.) if you want more information about this.
You can talk with Mongols who know the Truth
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Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 13:41 |
Originally posted by Huncuk
You can talk with Mongols who know the Truth |
ok, i will tell you the truth...
the mongol army that went to europe...it is actually an ukraine and russian army under cover!!!!
lolllllllll
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Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 14:33 |
Originally posted by Choyhona2
Originally posted by Huncuk
You can talk with Mongols who know the Truth |
ok, i will tell you the truth...
the mongol army that went to europe...it is actually an ukraine and russian army under cover!!!!
lolllllllll
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Man ı gave you a link,this is classic false about Mongol Empire Most Mongols thinking that,but this is not true.Their army invading europe was mainly Kipchak Turks.
You can also search it in Steppe Nomads Forum in this site,it is in
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Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 04:33 |
(((((((((((.it is actually an ukraine and russian army under cover!!!!))))))))
mongols not take novogorod pricipalty and smolensk principalty in rus
also mongols not heave rus soldiers in their army and turks too in early period(1220-1260)
in late period next great mongol rule TIMUR TAMERLAN fight with turks -and exterminate their army and their lider
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Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 04:37 |
Kipchak Turks - this is not turk - this is tjyrkish mongoloid tribes
tjyrkish this not turks
turks- this is like iranian nomad peoples(tjyrks seldjyks.-they come from place caspian sea and aral sea.
tjyrkish -this is mongoloid tribes from mongolia and place near mongolia
Huncuk -you realy think :All people in the state Turkey its Mongoloid race??? lol
peoples in Turkey like in Iran -but with another (other) language
Edited by vlad3339 - 25-Dec-2006 at 04:41
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Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 04:57 |
great picture
1500-1600 cossaks fight and exterminate in one battle 10 000 tatars and destroy siberian khanate
kosaks lider ERMAK
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Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 07:12 |
Originally posted by vlad3339
Kipchak Turks - this is not turk - this is tjyrkish mongoloid tribes tjyrkish this not turks turks- this is like iranian nomad peoples(tjyrks seldjyks.-they come from place caspian sea and aral sea. tjyrkish -this is mongoloid tribes from mongolia and place near mongolia
Huncuk -you realy think :All people in the state Turkey its Mongoloid race??? lol peoples in Turkey like in Iran -but with another (other) language
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Hi!
In the mediavel era was turk who was called turk:-) (hungarians, kazhars, uz (oguz))
Kipchaks/kumans/ polovici= the same
In April 1241 a russian, who was run away from the mongolian army, called the hungarian army for attention of the mongol attack.
From the 60-100 000 warriors were maybe 20 000 true mongols.
In Hungary the mongols attacked the cities and fortesses with captured and overruned enemies in the first lines. (with transylvanian saxons, volga-bulgarians and v-hungarians, russians(f.e. the wood border fortesses of the hungarians were damaged from some thousends of russian axe-men.
In polish (or german) painted chronicles the most of the painted "mongolian" horsemens are wearing kuman/kipchak clothes and hats.
TSZ
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Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 11:07 |
((((((((In April 1241 a russian, who was run away from the mongolian army)))))))
lol
i think all europe must say thx for russians and ukrainian peoples who die (and exterminate only in one kiev more than 30 000 tatars,every russian city and town fighting with mongols untill last man.
very small town KOZELSK fight with giant mongols horde -7 weeks !!!!))
in europe, another european nations only runing, when they see small mongolian detachments.
(((((In the mediavel era was turk who was called turk:-) (hungarians, kazhars, uz (oguz)) )))))
khazars -this is not tjyrk and they all die, after kievan lider Svjatoslav exterminate khazarian khanate.(befor mongols invasion)
hungrians -this is tjyrkish tribes-from place mountains URAL
turk - this is turks seldjyks tribes who later create ottomans empire.
(((((((In polish (or german) painted chronicles the most of the painted "mongolian" horsemens are wearing kuman/kipchak clothes and hats.)))))
mongolian horde in second campaign on russian land heave 150 000 mongolian and 200 000 non mongolian cavalry(polovci,mordva,kipchaks,kasogi,bulgars- and others tjyrko-tatars tribes
turk -this is non mongoloid people
tjyrk this is mongoloid people
Edited by vlad3339 - 25-Dec-2006 at 11:15
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Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 11:27 |
I have absoulutly no idea what you 2 are arguing about. who gives a rats ... anymore(this subject has been debated over and over again..It's kind of boring)
Btw nice pictures but if i'm not wrong I have seen these pictures allready onthis forum
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Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 17:19 |
heavy axemen reskin
Novgorod Principalty heavy axemen
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Posted: 25-Dec-2006 at 17:36 |
Novgorod heavy archers(1200-1300 year)
Novgorod heavy cavalry(unit reskin not finished)(1200-1300 year)
Edited by vlad3339 - 25-Dec-2006 at 18:16
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