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    Posted: 16-Dec-2006 at 23:20
A short piece of traditional music - I won't call it Greek or Turkish - you decide.
 
It's a traditional Anatolian lullaby, performed by somebody of Anatolian origin, and Turkish words are heard.
 
The instrument, called "santouri" in Greek, is of Persian origin.
 
An image of Istanbul appears behind the stage often...
 
 
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Edited by Hellios - 28-Dec-2006 at 18:06
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  Quote The Hidden Face Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Dec-2006 at 23:29
Clearly Greek.   
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  Quote bleda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2006 at 03:46
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Sfakianakis-Guftissa mera
best greek song ı think
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  Quote Bulldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2006 at 06:05
The instrument looks awesome I've never seen one before is it common in Greece?, the singing voice/style is reminicent and similar to some Turkish ballad's, sounds lovely and very moving.

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  Quote Patrinos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2006 at 14:11
Originally posted by bleda

Sfakianakis-Guftissa merabest greek song ı think

    

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If you want just say to me to send you some very good Sfakianakis links!!!



This instrument is called santouri,common in the islands and was common in Minor Asia(where this "miracle-kid" Areti Ketime is from(her grandparents I mean).
This song and melody is nanourisma-cradlesong and its panhellenic,it is sang by mothers and grandmothers to lull the kids...It sound very simiral to some byzantine hymns.

I found some samples of santouri:
Aivaliotikos
San ta Marmara tis Polis-Like the marbles of the City
Pername(Mytilini)
Geranotikos syrtos(Mytilini)
Ta xyla
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  Quote Hellios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2006 at 14:22
Originally posted by Bulldog

The instrument looks awesome I've never seen one before is it common in Greece?
 
Performers of traditional music know it.
 


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  Quote Patrinos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 09:45
Mmm...Natalia cok guzel

But these are the two best singers now:
1) Notis Sfakianakis
His best song:O Aetos(the Eagle)
other: Look how Greeks groove in bouzoukia!!:
Paparouna
and
Akou vre file

2) Pasxalis Terzis
Yparxo
Dakrysmeni Zitas
Leo

And of course the best bouzouktzis Nikolopoulos
Nikolopoulos playing Perpiniadis : here

Bleda,I suppose you like Sfakianakis,here take this links from his Live cd(Noother singer has ever sold more CDs from this one(Its in three parts):
http://rapidshare.com/files/716139/Notis_Sfakianakis_-_1999_-_XXX_Enthymion__2cd_.part1.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/722513/Notis_Sfakianakis_-_1999_-_XXX_Enthymion__2cd_.part2.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/722995/Notis_Sfakianakis_-_1999_-_XXX_Enthymion__2cd_.part3.rar.html

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  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 09:57
In Iranian (especially Kurdish & Persian) traditional music it is very common.

It is the ancestor of the piano.
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 09:58
about that instrument i have heard it in some old ottoman songs

I don't know the name but even the chinese have it.

i think sounds greek
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  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 10:02
I think the Chinese may have acquired it from Tajikistan, since it is also common there.

It is called the Santoor.
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 11:14
They could be possible. It makes sence but cab you find a chinemen the agree Tongue
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  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 12:12
I have never seen the Chinese version, but there are several styles - the use of this instrument is diverse around the Iranian geographical area (various tribes and people using it). How diverse is it in the Far East? If it is limited only to China then it is probable that it definitely is Near Eastern in Origin.

The only similar Chinese instrument I can think of has the strings plucked rather than hit with the hammer, though I don't know what it is called.
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 12:25
hmmm the chinese equilevant is smaller and they play it realy fast

the plucked version is a nother instrument Turkish its called Kanun(not a original turkic word prob persian or arabic)


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  Quote Hellios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 12:26
Originally posted by Zagros

It is the ancestor of the piano.
 
That means the piano is of Persian origin. Thumbs Up 


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  Quote Patrinos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:09
Originally posted by xi_tujue


hmmm the chinese equilevant is smaller and they play it realy fastthe plucked version is a nother instrument Turkish its called Kanun(not a original turkic word prob persian or arabic)

"Kanun" derives from the Greek word κανων(Kanon)='measuring rod; rule'.
Kanun is also simiral to Psalterion
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  Quote Anton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:29
Originally posted by The Hidden Face

Clearly Greek.   
 
Clearly "Greko-Turko-Serbo-Croato-Albano-Bulgaro-etc.etc.etc".-nian music. Those kind of motives you may find in any country south of Danube. And I suppose in Romania as well.
 
Very soon people in this forum will start to discuss who invented Harmonic minor -- Greeks or Turks. And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word Wink
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  Quote Patrinos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:34
Originally posted by Anton

And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word

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  Quote Anton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:35
Originally posted by Patrinos

Originally posted by Anton

And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word

You did it for us
      
 
Actually, I did it for you. Smile
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  Quote Hellios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:41
Originally posted by The Hidden Face

Clearly Greek.
Originally posted by Anton

Clearly "Greko-Turko-Serbo-Croato-Albano-Bulgaro-etc.etc.etc".-nian music. Those kind of motives you may find in any country south of Danube. And I suppose in Romania as well. Very soon people in this forum will start to discuss who invented Harmonic minor -- Greeks or Turks. And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word Wink 
 
LOL Anton, I think Hidden Face simply meant that he thinks it's a Greek song. Smile
 
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