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Imperator Invictus
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Topic: Guide to Roman numerals Posted: 22-Dec-2004 at 19:01 |
Just
thought I might write a guide here, as I think many people today aren't
always correct when speaking about ancient Roman Numerals, as used by
the Romans. For example, the use of the character M is post classical,
and was almost never used by the Romans.
The Romans used symbols to represent numbers:
I = 1 (the basic single down slash)
V = 5
X = 10
L = 50
C = 100
As most people
know, numbers are added when one is placed behind another of equal or
greater value, and if its placed behind another of less value, it is
subtracted by that lesser value. For example, IIII is 4, VI is five. IX
is 9. You may have noticed that IV also makes 4, just like how IIX and
VIII both make 8. In numbers that "borderline"the subtraction and
addition method, both forms would have been considered acceptable.
Roman numerals as a system was not very standardized, especially when
you go to higher numbers:
D or
= 500
Either a strikethrough D or I and a flipped C, called an apostrophus
or ∞ or ( | ) = 1000
notice that adding another I to
doubles it to 1000. Sometimes, it's written less letter-like and more
like a circle with a line through it: ( | ). the infinity symbol is also
used as 1000. Adding a bar above the letters multiplies it by
1000, so for example,
_
I = 1000
_
V or I or | ) = 5000
CCI or ((| )) or X(with bar)= 10000 eg. ((| )) ((| )) ((| )) = 30000
And this pattern continues... sometimes the ( or ) are replaced by shorter vertical lines, such as ||||| for
10000. Usually, when large numbers are inscribed, they are written
smaller than normal character. Another variation is to have a circle
with a verticle line through the middle, and have the ( and ) written
inside the two halves of the circle. A million is represented by X
enclosed with lines:
__
|X | = 1,000,000 The three lines represents mulitplcation by 100,000.
There are also some instances where the lateral lines were only half
way drawn, but it isn't very clear if it means something different.
There are many exceptions to the rules, such as dealing with military numbers.
Edited by Imperator Invictus
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Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 08:21 |
Thanks, I confess I didn't know some of the stuff concerning the high numerals.
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BattleGlory
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Posted: 26-Dec-2004 at 21:30 |
M can also equal 1,000. I did not know a lot of that, actually. Thank you.
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cattus
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Posted: 29-Apr-2005 at 01:32 |
What symbol was used to indicate 1/2 ?
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Imperator Invictus
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Posted: 29-Apr-2005 at 15:22 |
Apparantly, it's
Known as the semis. For other fractions, the Romans didn't have a
widely used symbol for them, as far as I know. They had words to
represent numbers like 5/12 and composite phrases that would say "three
fifths" but not a symbol.
Mathmaticians during the Roman period usually used Greek, eygptian, and
other systems more flexible than the Roman one. Greek numerals were
capable of fraction forms.
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cattus
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Posted: 29-Apr-2005 at 20:53 |
Hmm, what I am seeing is a deformed "S" or hook of somekind. The semis is a strange character. Thank you.
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