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    Posted: 17-Aug-2004 at 15:42

What armor really appeals to you.

I really like the unique, but effective armor that the Polish winged hussars used. It looked great, and performed just as well.

http://www.rencentral.com/sept_vol1/hussars.shtml

http://www.medieval-weaponry.com/en-us/dept_707.html

The mongols also had an amazing armor. As many of you know, they used silk and leather. The silk would allow arrows to be removed easily and this combination was very light.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Aug-2004 at 16:35

Brigandine,  that is what I would wear if going on the front lines

Terribly sorry I was in a rush.  To be specific leather brigandine,  nice and flexible and light but still tough and can be repaired by a soldier.



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  Quote Keltoi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Aug-2004 at 16:40
Could you please explain why?
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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Aug-2004 at 18:02

my favorite armor in terms of appearance in no doubt Japanese armor.

In terms of effectiveness I caould really argue anyones case, but I also really like mid Ottoman armor with the slim plates and lots so chain.

Most effective from what historical sources Ive read would be Tibetan armor though.  In reports from Turks, Arabs, and Chinese it is mentioned how good Tibetan armor was and how it stopped arows much better thna most others.

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  Quote demon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Aug-2004 at 19:48

In terms of design- depends, but a Japanese samurai armor looks scary, while aztec eagle warrior armor looks fancy, and Korean ones look colorful.  China is a mixture of hybrid as far as I can see. 

But did anyone realize that teutonic knights wore 10 layers of chail mail armor?  That msut have been pretty tough

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Aug-2004 at 19:54
Makes since,  they could pretty much take any other troop unless they were knocked over,  then I could imagine they would be in a tricky situation
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  Quote fastspawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Aug-2004 at 21:59
mongolian silk armor.

A silk shirt designed not to prevent slashes,stabs or other injuries but just so that it is easier to pull out the head of the arrow if it hits you.
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  Quote YusakuJon3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Aug-2004 at 18:54
I find that I like the armor worn by Roman legions, especially the elite corps.  It looks light and flexible, but is tough at the same time.  Too bad they couldn't have thought of adopting a silk undershirt for added protection against arrows the way that Mongols did, but that big shield of theirs did most of the work anyway.  Just drop the shield below eye level long enough to let that pilum fly, then charge in with the gladius swinging...
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  Quote JanusRook Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 16:37

Anything chainmail, when I worked in a butcher's shop we had chain mail gloves and those things wouldn't let anything slice you, besides if you wore extra layers like demon said for the teutonic knights you'd pretty much be immune to arrows. Although ten layers would be a little much, maybe 3 or so.......

Just drop the shield below eye level long enough to let that pilum fly, then charge in with the gladius swinging...

This is all irrelevant but wasn't the gladius a thrusting sword?

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  Quote Tonifranz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 16:49

The European Plate armor of the 1400s! It covered everything, and I mean everything, and it dominated European battlefields for 100 years till the invention of firearms. Though pictured in movies as heavy and cumbersome, it's actually pretty effective in the Battlefield with the right tactics (not the French tactics of charging English longbowmen in the field, but one that uses the advantages of the knights relative invulnerability in hand to hand combat).

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 19:41
Actually I was recently reading about carbon reinforced plate armor,  that is definetely buying protection isn't it?
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  Quote Gubook Janggoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 21:38
Those Polish winged hussars look cool...what was the point of those wings though? decoration? I like Northern native American armor...Those bone vests look soo cool
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  Quote Roughneck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 22:12
From what I understand the wings were supposed to make a frightening noise that scared the other side's horses.  This is just what I read, so no, I don't know how to reconcile the obvious contradiction of why didn't it scare the Polish horses.  Maybe by training with them the Polish horses were no longer scared of the sound.
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The horses were probably conditioned to not be afraid of the wings,  the same way horses of the middle east were not afraid of camels scent because they had been around them.
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  Quote Keltoi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Aug-2004 at 18:19
No, it was used to block their backs from swords from behind.
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  Quote demon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Aug-2004 at 18:32

To me, they just look heavy...maybe it was used during cav vs cav confontation where you bash an enemy passing closely by with the wide wing...you know what I'm saying?

But, True, Polish Hussars are remarkable.

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  Quote Gubook Janggoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Aug-2004 at 20:25
Wow so many ideas...iono what they're for but they look crazy.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Aug-2004 at 22:54
Actually I was wondering,  for Tuetonic Knights,  how did they walk with all that armor on?  Or did they ride on horse back?(sorry I don't much about them other than they were quite powerful)
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  Quote warhead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Aug-2004 at 23:42

"mongolian silk armor.

A silk shirt designed not to prevent slashes,stabs or other injuries but just so that it is easier to pull out the head of the arrow if it hits you."

 

Silk armour is not an mongolian invention nor is the mongols strongly revolutionized it in any way, silk only made up the minority of the mongol armour, its the Manchus that start to wear silk armour in great quantity.

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  Quote fastspawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Aug-2004 at 11:08
But if the Mongols came before the Manchus, how is that logically possible?

I am quite certain that the Mongols were the first to wear silk as a protection against arrows.


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