who are Turks? The current people in Anatolia?

What did he do?

By the way, it's not nice to insult anybody in your first post... 

Originally posted by kotumeyil Dear gok_toruk, you are the politest member of AE!

also a boring member ,who will say hi dear alll--------,LOOL!!

Originally posted by Cengiz Kagan Originally posted by perdon Originally posted by kotumeyil Dear gok_toruk, you are the politest member of AE! also a boring member ,who will say hi dear alll--------,LOOL!! If it comes to boringness I think you surpass every member of AE.

ican surpass anyone except you !

A piece of advice,  review your posts before you posting them. That will make you look better.

So you are expert in anthropology, sorry, I didn't know that. tell me then, who are mongols or when they were known as mongols? what is the reason for turkic and mongol people's being distinctive from each other? I was even more amazed when you were talking about 600 BC. 

Azaris should be the people who claim they are turkic or not, not you or some other so called scholars. Language is not changed so easily. You know Tajik people, why have they kept their language among so many Turkic nations around them? Why have the other Iranians( or Persians)  kept their language (only Azaris have changed) ? It is common for  the family to speak in their mother toung, if both of the parents speak the same language. Of course they can become bilingual if the governing group speak a different language.  For their children, if the majority of the community speak their mother toung, they usually keep their mother toung. It is different when it comes to two parents who speak different languages. You should remember, Iranian language had a strong literatual culture, ususally it'd be more difficult to give up this type of a language.  I think you've got my point. It is ridiculous to me, if some one tries to deny one group of people's self-identity, soly judging from racial point of view. Don't use phrase like "from the first biginning", as if you were there to observe everything.

Now you are learning to give your proofs, "Salurs before 1800 years". Go on, which period? Why they were considered to be one of the strongest? Why other turkic people don't know much about them?

Empires of the Word : A Language History of the World
by Nicholas Ostler

This book covers the rise and decline of lanquages. The main reason for lanquage growth is the ability to gain new speakers. Farming communities have this advantage for some reason. Other important reason are conquest, economic might, and religion. Trade communities make a big impact yet for only a short duration in the whole scheme of things.

I thought you would show me your anthropologic knowledge. Pity, you were giving some examples. Well then, had those Mongols lived seperately from other people? I don't think they were also taking as much mongol women with them when they came to that part of central Asia, and I also don't think that the soldiers as conquerers contented with only one wife. There surely happened intermarriage between the mongols and the locals. Anyway, do they call themselves Mongols or Turkmans or Iranians? If they call themselves Turkmens, then they are Turkmens. It is that simple. Because they have their own reason for that. NO ONE IS ASHAMED OF BEING A  PART OF AN ETHNIC GROUP, AS THERE IS ALWAYS SOME FACTS FOR THEM TO BE PROUD OF.  I wonder why physical characteristics are so important for you? Azaris and Anatolians are not comparable? Who told you that?  You are mentioning Genetic map, save your time to paste them. According to that map,  Qazaqs are more mogoloid than Mongols, Russians are more close to Mongols than to Europeans etc etc. What really matters is the common cultural root, not gene.   

Oh really, so they made up a name and gave it to their mighty nation. WOW. I didn't know that. Anyway, which tribes united under Mongolians? I think you have enough knowledge about Turkic tribes before the Mongol empire. Then how many of them merged to that unity? please name them. If you can't, I suggets a book which might be helpful. "Shejerei Turk" (Abulghazi Bahadirhan)

Now you have changed your tone. Good step.  But still Sorry, we don't think the attackers as the strongest, we think the group who did build an empire or Hakhanate as the strongest in "All Central Asia".  

Ask Mongolians, what they think about Turks. Then you will get your answer.

Now it's become not important to you. It seems you have learnt something. Good. Don't support your arguments  by this anymore as you did in your previous posts.