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    Posted: 04-Nov-2006 at 13:10
Originally posted by pinguin

Originally posted by Mortaza

The country is very diverse!!!

It is true, but our people generally dont see that difference.(Like me, I am not aware of hispanic faces.[IMG]height=17 alt=Confused src="http://www.allempires.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>


First. What is a hispanic face? As far as I know, Hispanics are so diverse they can't be put in a box. I can't tell who is Hispanic and who is not in any multi-ethnic city. And I am Hispanic. [IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.allempires.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>


Second, there is an important group of Sephardites living in Turkey, and, of course, many "look Spanish".


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I thought that some could easily pass for a Mexican in my area.
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Originally posted by think

Because Turkey wants to be in the EU that means your under EU rules which means letting in refugees, do you really think the Turks will treat Africans as fellow Turks, i dont think so.

 
Why has Europe to "let in" African refugees in the first place?
 
As far as I know, Europe is making all the efforts possible to keep Africans in Africa. Spain has been forced by the EU to increase its security and now that country is forcing Morocco and other North African countries to stop the influx of Africans. Moreover, Spain is deporting directly to Africa the would be refugees that arrive to the Canarias.
 
So, I don't understand why Turkey has to "let in" foreigners if it does not want to?
 
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Originally posted by eaglecap

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I thought that some could easily pass for a Mexican in my area.
 
Which group? Sephardites or Turks in general? Do you have pictures?
 
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I thought that some could easily pass for a Mexican in my area.
 
Maybe but as I said before, most turks dont see difference between face. For Turks, all of them are turks, and there is not any difference between them.
 
we dont see people,as mongoloid, latin, or white. So most probably more than 90 of Turkish people are not aware of their mexican look.
 
 
 
 
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What about Sephardites? How big is theirs comunity in Turkey? Do they still look Spaniard?

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I think they have a small community(Of course excluding asimilated one.), and I dont think anyone can differantiate them from their look. So I dont know If they look spaniard or not.

In turkey you cannot diffentiate, a turk, an armenian, a greek, or a jew from each other.
 
 


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well acording to our society, the one who say I am turk is generally accepted as Turk. Their race and clour wont be a problem.
 
Of course generilization always will happen, thanks to American films.


Turks seem very nationalistic, they also have their own "ethnic group" If faced with people who look different that will turn into racism.

You could say yeh us Turks were hella different but your not really. If i met someone who was Turkish yet had Blonde hair & Blue eyes or looked Asian, I dunno i wouldnt really think of them as Turkish. Theres most likely a fringe element in Turkey that dont look typically "turkish" but that doesnt mean Turks cant be racist..

You could also say the many faces of the English. Because some have that Roman look about them, some with a more German look an some Blonde/Brown/Red/Black hair. Blue/Green/Black/Brown eyes..

Does that mean the English cant be racist because they have many features within their ethnicity Confused





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As long as he says "I am a proudly Turk." and speaks Turkish as a native.

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Turks cant be racist. Really.
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Originally posted by The Hidden Face

As long as he says "I am a proudly Turk." and speaks Turkish as a native.


Theres nothing special about the Turks, nothing that makes them immune to racism.
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Originally posted by The Hidden Face

Turks cant be racist. Really.


No of course not.
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Originally posted by The Hidden Face

Turks cant be racist. Really.


the ones who are racist are mostly non-Turkic from ethnic or has non-Turkic facial features (blond hair blue-green eyes).
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Turkist are mostly pure Turks but Grey wolves have some other races in group.

 

Turks can't be racist?Well,there is a Turk race in Turkey and most of the population is Turk.Yes they are mixed,this because of there are many races in Anatolia.But they still Turks,can u find me  a non-mixed nation in Europe?I don't think so...They didn't mixed heavily like us but they also mixed...And they can be racist.I am not sayin racism is a good thing =).

Aren't there non-mixed or litle-mixed Turks?Millions of them...

Yoruks in cities mostly are grey wolf or racist.


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Yoruks in cities mostly are grey wolf or racist.


But lmost of them don't know if they mixed or not.They can't know.
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[QUOTE=The Hidden Face]the ones who are racist are mostly non-Turkic from ethnic or has non-Turkic facial features (blond hair blue-green eyes)


Its almost like your saying people of the more Anglo appearance are racists an the other more Turkish people are humble, nice an made of sugar an spice..

Hidden face said anyone who speaks Turkish an is involved in Turkish culture is Turkish. Yet your pointing out the differences in a bad light between the Turkish population which in todays world constitutes as um racism..
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Turkist are mostly pure Turks but Grey wolves have some other races in group


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Originally posted by DayI

Originally posted by The Hidden Face

Turks cant be racist. Really.


the ones who are racist are mostly non-Turkic from ethnic or has non-Turkic facial features (blond hair blue-green eyes).


ok, you know , so you can tell me the turkic facial-features?
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You could say yeh us Turks were hella different but your not really. If i met someone who was Turkish yet had Blonde hair & Blue eyes or looked Asian, I dunno i wouldnt really think of them as Turkish. Theres most likely a fringe element in Turkey that dont look typically "turkish" but that doesnt mean Turks cant be racist..
 
That is your problem,blond or not, they will call themself as turk, and turks will call them as turks.
 
I am a blond and blue eyed turk, until now, no one saw me as fringe element.Infact I heard such words only from you.(an outsider)
 
 
Turks cannot be racist, but nationalist. Not because we are better people than others, but we are to diverse, we cannot divide our people to white, black, brown or whatever.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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ok, you know , so you can tell me the turkic facial-features?
Realy good question.Big smile
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