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  Quote Gun Powder Ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Converted Churches and Mosques
    Posted: 29-Sep-2006 at 23:31
Out of curiosity, I would like to know which current mosques had been originally churches and which current churches had orginally been mosques. I would like to restrict the thread only to those churches and mosques which remain still today in a converted state, not to those which had been converted back and forth at one time or another in the past.

As a third class, I would like to introduce those churches and mosques which were used at one time by the other faith and which nowadays serve as museum.


Churches orginally mosques

Giralda of Seville: Not the cathedral itself, but its bell tower, the famous Giralda. had been orginally a minaret, erected in the late 12th century.


Mosques originally churches


Do not know of any yet.


Museums:
- Hagia Sophia, Constantinople, Turkey
- Great Mosque of Cordoba, Spain

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Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_non-Muslim_places_of_worship_into_mosques


Edited by Gun Powder Ma - 30-Sep-2006 at 09:34
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  Quote Preobrazhenskoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Sep-2006 at 23:45
None come to mind at the moment, but this is an interesting thread...I hope our Muslim and Christian members don't throw a fit over war history here though. That could be volatile, and easily develop into a flame-baiting war of "who's army was better and more superior when" type of deal. People make me sick. Lol.
 
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Sep-2006 at 23:47
I heard that some churches in the netherlands weren't used so muslims bought it and turned it into a mosk.
 
I think it's better than turning it into a nightclub you have one in Maastricht(netherlands). I think it's a shame and blasfemous 2.
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  Quote Vivek Sharma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 00:48
I don't know aboutr churches, but in India we have thousands of temples which had ben forcibly converted into mosques. Another example is the world famous Taj Mahal, which was originally a temple of Lord Shiv, later converted into a mosque.
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 02:40

The Tāj Mahal (Urdu/Persian: تاج محل; Hindi: ताज महल) is a monument located in Agra, India, constructed in 22 years (1631 - 1653) by a workforce of 22,000. The Muslim Mughal Emperor Shāh Jahān commissioned its construction as a mausoleum for his favourite wife, Arjumand Bano Begum, who is better known as Mumtāz Mahal.

The Taj Mahal (sometimes called "the Taj") is generally considered the finest example of Mughal architecture, a style that combines elements of Indian, Islamic and Persian architectures. The Taj Mahal has achieved special note because of the romance of its inspiration. While the white domed marble mausoleum is the most familiar part of the monument, the Taj Mahal is actually an integrated complex of structures

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  Quote Vivek Sharma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 03:35
What you have found on Wiki is right, but it doesn't tell about the original structure on which it was built, which was a Hindu temple belonging to a king from Rajasthan.
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 04:42
so it only became famous because they changed it
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  Quote Ahmed The Fighter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 04:54

  All Andalucia(Moorish Spain) Mosques are converted to Cathedrals,Churchs and Chapels, as an example The great mosque of Cordoba is converted to Cathedral but the spanishs still called it the Mosque.

As well as Sicily mosques some sources refer to the city of Palermo had a 300 mosques they are not exist now.

Hagia Sophia in Istanbul was converted to Mosque by Muhammed II (The Conqueror).

Ummayad Mosque in Damascus built over the ruins of shrine of Prophet Jhon the baptist(PBUH)Yahya in Arabic,In 2001 Pope John Paul II visited the mosque, primarily to visit the relics of John the Baptist. It was the first time a pope paid a visit to a mosque.
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  Quote Vivek Sharma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 05:42
Originally posted by xi_tujue

so it only became famous because they changed it


No the normal process was to modify it or demoslih it & build a new mosque in its place.
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  Quote Exarchus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 09:10
Originally posted by Gun Powder Ma


Mosques originally churches



This in Northern Cyprus


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Aya iranie- the smaller sister church next to the Aya Sofia that later served as a musuem and small private mosque to the Ottoman Sultan when he lived in Topkapi. I watched the Daniel Barenboim East-West divan orchestra play there = great fun!
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  Quote Gun Powder Ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 09:30
Originally posted by Ahmed The Fighter

as an example The great mosque of Cordoba is converted to Cathedral but the spanishs still called it the Mosque.


You are right in the sense that the Spaniards built a church right in the middle of the great arch hall (which destroyed much of its unique appeal).  But I have been there 3 times over the last 15 years, and the whole parameter leaves the impression of being a museum and tourist attraction, not a church.
Originally posted by Ahmed The Fighter



Ummayad Mosque in Damascus built over the ruins of shrine of Prophet Jhon the baptist(PBUH)Yahya in Arabic


IIRC the Ummayads paid out first the Christians before tearing down the church and erecting the mosque.
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  Quote Gun Powder Ma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 09:35
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_non-Muslim_places_of_worship_into_mosques
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  Quote Sirona Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 09:59
There is a great number of mosques which were converted from churches in from when the Byzantine Empire fell to the Ottomans. In Istanbul a lot of monastery katholikons from 12-15th century were converted to mosques but in some cases the original artwork remained (like in Chora, which is now a museum too.) In Byzantine architecture classes a lot of such ex-churches are examined, although only from the outside as the interiors are usually not intact (the usage of a mosque was quite different from the usage of a church so some redecoration was usually needed.)

There is also a lot of churches in Greece which were previously temples to the Olympian gods, of course. This sort of thing happens all the time.


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  Quote Ahmed The Fighter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 10:08
you are right Gun Powder they paid for Christians first before they built the great mosque in damascus.
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  Quote RomiosArktos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 10:38
In Salonica, there is a monument called Rotonda.What is quite surpising is that it has served all the religions that existed in Salonica.
It was built in Roman times as a temple of Zeus and the Caveiroi(a mysticist cult introduced from Thrace),it was converted in late antiquity to a Christian church and it remained a church throughout the Byzantine era and then after the conquest of the city by the ottomans in 1430 it was converted to a Mosque.Then in 1912 Salonica was liberated by the Greek army and Rotonda became again a christian church dedicated to St.George.It didn't however remain a church for a long time because some decades ago it was recognised as an archeological site.



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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 13:37
There is a mosque in London, that was previously a synagogue, and before that various churches of different denominations.
Its actualy very common in large cities that have witnessed multiple migrations over extended peroids of time.
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  Quote Vivek Sharma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Nov-2006 at 05:40

In India we have a list of three thousand Hindu temples (major ones), which were converted into Mosques, Taj Mahal being the most famous being converted from the earlier Tejo Mahalaya temple - palace complex, dedicated to Lord Shiv.

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  Quote Maharbbal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Nov-2006 at 05:53
Alfonso the Great transformed the mosque of Toledo into a church two years after his conquest of the city breaking the word he had given to the muslim community.

I don't know if it counts but the Church of the St Vincent cap at the very South West of Portugal had been divided because it was a place of pilgrimage for the three relogions of Al Andalus.
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  Quote OSMANLI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Nov-2006 at 05:55
Stay on topic Vivek. THe topic is called 'Converted Churches and Mosques', not 'Converted Churches and Mosques and misc.'. Thus we do not want to hear about your propaganda stories of the Taj Mahal or temples dedicated to Lord Shiv. Thank you Smile
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