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    Posted: 24-Sep-2006 at 23:12
spain's military can kick anybody's ass


if spain wanted to, it can kick turkey's butt!
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Russia has its answer against US nuclear shield.They are developing a penetration system that can cope with that miserable nuclear shield.Russia also is developing its own nuclear shield which will be much more advanced than american.

    
    
    

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Seems to be an intelligent list. I notice a great similarity to the ranks of biggest econimies in this list.
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Originally posted by Ponce de Leon

spain's military can kick anybody's ass


if spain wanted to, it can kick turkey's butt!
 
 
 
Turkey: Aircraft: 1,964
Armor: 7,165
Artillery Systems: 4,935
Missile Defense Systems: 1,552
Infantry Support Systems: 9,631
Naval Units: 182
Merchant Marine Strength: 538
 
 
Spain: Aircraft: 691
Armor: 2,869
Artillery Systems: 1,330
Missile Defense Systems: 843
Infantry Support Systems: 2,330
Naval Units: 90
Merchant Marine Strength: 165
 
I think numbres talk, dont you agree?




 
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Originally posted by olkiej

Originally posted by Ponce de Leon

spain's military can kick anybody's ass


if spain wanted to, it can kick turkey's butt!
 
 
 
Turkey: Aircraft: 1,964
Armor: 7,165
Artillery Systems: 4,935
Missile Defense Systems: 1,552
Infantry Support Systems: 9,631
Naval Units: 182
Merchant Marine Strength: 538
 
 
Spain: Aircraft: 691
Armor: 2,869
Artillery Systems: 1,330
Missile Defense Systems: 843
Infantry Support Systems: 2,330
Naval Units: 90
Merchant Marine Strength: 165
 
I think numbres talk, dont you agree?




 


 No. Numbers don't talk in emotional outbursts.
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If this thread is going to degenerate into another "my country is better than yours" threads then I will close it without hesitation.
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Here is what i found for USA and Russia nuclear arsenals.

USA - 5735 active warheads/9960 Total
Russia - 7200 active warheads/16000 Total
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Originally posted by Desimir

Here is what i found for USA and Russia nuclear arsenals.

USA - 5735 active warheads/9960 Total
Russia - 7200 active warheads/16000 Total
 
Sorry, I might be talking ICBM's then.
 
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Yes.  We are talking about the same India.  The United States also has a population of poor (...not starving, but terribly unhealthy) people. 

Walking the streets of Houston, the fourth largest city in the United States, a co-worker from Bolivia was amazed that the United States had 'poor people'.  He thought everyone in America was wealthy.

Yes.  We are talking about the one and the same; United States and India.  When was the last time you read in the newspapers that there was an epidemic of starvation in these two countries?  North Korea had two events in recent years and Africa?...   Don't even go there.
 
Well I dont question that N. Korea and Africa could do with the food but I'm just saying that India has a massive population of poor people who starve, far more than in the US. There may be no offical famine but it aint pretty.
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USA is out of comparison. I can't believe that Turkey is above of UK in military power. The numbers are shown a superiority(I doudbt if the numbers we saw are for real)!!
But in the war many other things are crucial. Who is the attacker, what are the level of training of the amries, what are the strategy, the diplomacy, the allies but first of all is the Economy. Let's say that Turkey starts a war with Sysria. How long it is going to last. 1 week most. Turkey has not the economic power to last more. None in the region, except Israel, can do that. The fuels Turkey has are lasting for 10 days. Greece has the same problem. All the countries in the region. In mediteranean Israel, Italy and Spain are considered super powers.
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Originally posted by perikles

USA is out of comparison. I can't believe that Turkey is above of UK in military power. The numbers are shown a superiority(I doudbt if the numbers we saw are for real)!!
But in the war many other things are crucial. Who is the attacker, what are the level of training of the amries, what are the strategy, the diplomacy, the allies but first of all is the Economy. Let's say that Turkey starts a war with Sysria. How long it is going to last. 1 week most. Turkey has not the economic power to last more. None in the region, except Israel, can do that. The fuels Turkey has are lasting for 10 days. Greece has the same problem. All the countries in the region. In mediteranean Israel, Italy and Spain are considered super powers.
 
 
Fuel?
Feul?

What are you talking about?
where did u read/hear/see that?
Israel?
Israel can only attack country's like
palestina and lebanon
If they attack lets say Iran Turkey or Greece
They will be eatin up by no time..
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The list is unbelievable...
I think who made it ,only estimated for population...Gold stocks etc are funny.
Nukes important and will be untill when more powerful weapons be invented.
I believe in a full war ,population is important.But only population isn't enough for victory.Quality,technology,quantity,tactics,command etc. This is my list:
USA
Russia
China
UK
France
India
Germany
Israel
S.Korea
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[QUOTE=Giordano]The list is unbelievable...
I think who made it ,only estimated for population...Gold stocks etc are funny.
Nukes important and will be untill when more powerful weapons be invented.
I believe in a full war ,population is important.But only population isn't enough for victory.Quality,technology,quantity,tactics,command etc. This is my list:
USA
Russia
China
UK
France
India
Germany
Israel
S.Korea


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Clap bravo another one who puts Israel soo high
 
I dont want to blame the army of Israel, but they fight against the weakest country's in the world.
 
let them fight against Iran let's see who'll win.
 
Ok maybe the first stages of war Israel will win, but in the end the population of israel is small, that makes them weak in the end.
 
rmmbr Operation Barbarossa ww2 , the Russians won because of the huge Population they had.
 
 
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İf Russia has only huge population wwII result would be changeable...
Russian tanks,aircrafts,artillery,navy,snipers were so important for the victory
China had a huge population in wwII,why they didn't stop Japanese invade untill Us support them?Only population isn't enough,but i don't say it is not important,ok?
İran has big population but army is weak.Most of aircraft out of order,weapons not high tech,old chinese weapons...
Israel army uses high tech and has enough nukes to defend itself.
Last operation rejoice you i think but don't forget this is only an operation,not a full war.I believe İran can' t attack İsrael ...
This post  (İsrael-İran) is last post from me because i know this dialogues never finishes...
One friend says Spain if want kick Turkey s butt...
This is really fun,thank you for this joke...
Year 2006 not  15 th century...Spain is not weak but Turkey also isn't...I really wonder that how Spain can do it???
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Rembember how long Israel took to defeat Egypt?
6 DAYS.
israel: 2.5 million
Egypt: 50 million at that time
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but they are arab!!!All that they knows for a war,this is treachery...
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During the last centuries arabs showed to be poor soldiers.
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Originally posted by Ponce de Leon

spain's military can kick anybody's ass


if spain wanted to, it can kick turkey's butt!
 
Dude, the list is not about soccer but military mightLOL
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lol @ the comment above, and I agree..

Regarding the list, it's pretty off from my perspective. I think Israel and UK should be ranked higher. Israel should be in the Top 10, no doubt. It's sort of like the United States because both nations rely heavily on high-tech weapons systems.
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spain can still kick turkey's butt.

but i do not want to degenerate this topic so lets finish this with my last statment. anyway Israel has a very good airforce..one of the best actually. and how do i know this? the only reason why i know this is because every jewish friend of mine has at least one t-shirt with on the front...one of the best air force in world lol
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The maker of this list has very heavily relied on economics as an indicator of the economic strength. Just compare this list with the list of top economies of the world on the pasis of PPP & you will that the lists are almost similiar
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