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    Posted: 06-Nov-2004 at 17:14
The chemical bombs that Saddam dropped on the Iraqi city of Halabcheh killed the whole people of this city!


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  Quote Genghis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Nov-2004 at 20:03

Originally posted by mike81188

I think we can all agree that neither candidate was qualified to be a president, despite Bush's winning. We need a person who knows how to run a country not a monkey.

I agree, so therefore I shall take on the role of President with emergency powers to deal with the problem with terrorists or social security, or something.  The important thing is the emergency powers.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Nov-2004 at 17:50
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

Did Hussein ever kill 100,000 civilians over the course of a year and a half?

A year and half?! just some minutes!

The chemical bombs that Saddam dropped on the Iraqi city of Halabcheh killed the whole people of this city!


In Halabja between 4000 and 7000 people were killed. The total death count of Saddam's crackdown in the Kurds is 200.000. Furthermore 1 million people died in the Iran-Iraq war and 300.000 political opponents or other undesirables were killed.
So Saddam Hussein is responsible for an estimated 1.7 million people.

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  Quote Kubrat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Nov-2004 at 22:14
How do you get 1.7 million from 7000 + 200 000 + 1 000 000 + 300 000?  Anyway, that is pretty much irrelevant.

But for America to be a liberator 100 000 deaths is not permited!  America went to liberate the Iraqi people, not kill 100 000 of them.
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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Nov-2004 at 00:22
Originally posted by Genghis

Originally posted by mike81188

I think we can all agree that neither candidate was qualified to be a president, despite Bush's winning. We need a person who knows how to run a country not a monkey.

I agree, so therefore I shall take on the role of President with emergency powers to deal with the problem with terrorists or social security, or something.  The important thing is the emergency powers.

 

I think we have found a solution to our differences here!

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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Nov-2004 at 02:31
Kubrat, if you are concerned with getting the numbers right as you seem, i wouldnt be using that 100,000 figure. It is based on a flawed formula and is being questioned all over. Even the highest UN estimates are a fraction of that.

http://slate.com/Default.aspx?id=2108887&...

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/10/28/iraq_death s041028.html
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Nov-2004 at 08:30
Originally posted by Kubrat

How do you get 1.7 million from 7000 + 200 000 + 1 000 000 + 300 000?  Anyway, that is pretty much irrelevant.

But for America to be a liberator 100 000 deaths is not permited!  America went to liberate the Iraqi people, not kill 100 000 of them.

, I miscounted
Anyway, even more important is the fact that the largest part of these killings took place when Saddam was supported by the US.
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  Quote Kubrat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2004 at 21:50
Wow, thanks for the sources Catt!

Now I don't know what to think, except that a better survey needs to be taken when all the chaos is subdued over there...

But what about http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ ?  How do they calculate the 142 000+?
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