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Poll Question: Who will you vote for and why?
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    Posted: 03-Nov-2004 at 10:51
time to learn a new anthem...Oh Canada....
"the people are nothing but a great beast...
I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value."
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*Kubrat grabs a bag of popcorn and watches the US continue its downward spiral.*
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Nov-2004 at 13:53
Again the saying "every country gets the leader it deserves" appears to be true.
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Originally posted by Kubrat

*Kubrat grabs a bag of popcorn and watches the US continue its downward spiral.*

Don't spout anti-American lies because you don't like our President.  No one likes a sore loser.
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  Well, Kerry has accepted Bush's victory.

  Very closed victory, but still a victory.

  Wishing the best to USA on this new presidential period.

   Regards
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Accepted? More he conceeded.

Here's a little info on the typical voters of the election, going by percentages.

Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 45-59
Income: 50-75,000 USD
Union Status: Unregistered
Full Time Work?: Yes
Working Woman?: No
Education: Some College
Party: Democratic/Republican tied at 37%
Ideology: Moderate
Previous Voter: Yes
Religion: Protestant
Military Service: None
Married: Yes
Married With Children: No
Children under 18: Yes
Gun Owner In Household: No
"When did you decide who to vote for?": Over a month ago
Most Important Issue: Moral Values (Take THAT Terrorism)
Bush's Handling of Presidency: Strongly Disagree (1% higher than Strongly Agree)
Most Important Quality: Will Bring Change
"Compared to four years ago, is the US safe from terrorism?": Safe(r)
War in Iraq Standing: Strongly Disapprove (2% higher than Strongly Approve)
War on Terrorism: In Favor
"How are things going for the US in Iraq?": Badly
Family Economic Situation: Same

Stupid Question Alert:
"Your vote for the president was mostly..."
A) For your candidate
B) Against his opponent

More can be found Here



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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Nov-2004 at 16:52
Nader got most of his votes from the rich, interesting.
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Don't spout anti-American lies because you don't like our President.  No one likes a sore loser.


Who?  Me?  I'm just a bystander in this show.  It's just an opinion, and what anti-american lies?

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The lie that America is on the brink of decline, which is total conjecture and has no empirical support.
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uh, Iraq?  Never have we invaded a country with no good reason at all, it shows how pathetic our intelligence system is, thats a sighn of decline, when foriegn creditors ask for their money back and we dont have any, thats a sign of decline...and most importantly as this has held true for most of history, when religious fanatics afraid of outside influence take spower...that is the biggest sign of decline.

However not all is lost, it could very well be only a temporary setback, once I take power the US will exceed far beyond anything any nation has achieved before....
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Then why did we invade places like Cuba and such in 1898, our intelligence system was even worse before World War II, we have a relatively small debt in comparison to our GDP, and the Republican party is hardly as religious as people were up utntil the 50's.

Don't overreact, it makes you look uncredible, and that's probably part of the reason you lost the election.
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Did it ever occur to anyone that perhaps the terrorists took the WoMD from Saddam, or he gave them to another country?

 

I hate it when people jump to conclusions. Just because I can't find my "o" key doesn't mean it didn't exist.

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Oh Canada!  Here I come!
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Nov-2004 at 23:17
Man........ this truly sucks! For more years of Bush*t.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Nov-2004 at 04:51
Originally posted by Tobodai

uh, Iraq?  Never have we invaded a country with no good reason at all,

Panama, 1989
There were also other countries that have been invaded for questionable reasons, but the reason to invade Panama, because Noriega was a drugsdealer, was completely fake. The CIA knew for years he was one, even while he was on the payroll.
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Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli

Again the saying "every country gets the leader it deserves" appears to be true.

Good God!!! I'm terrified by the thought that the Americans are of the same mentality as the leader they have voted for (which apparently must be the truth!)

All their backwater, conservative, xenophobic, ultra religious feeling came to surface. It seems that terrifying people works, it worked for Hitler after all. All this for the sake of "security" - well screw security! other things (must) have priority over it!

Sorry if I'm offending any Americans in the forum but I can't help it. In the beginning I was angry, now I'm just sad and puzzled (not to mention abdicated).

 

 

 

 



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Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli

Originally posted by Tobodai

uh, Iraq?  Never have we invaded a country with no good reason at all,

Panama, 1989
There were also other countries that have been invaded for questionable reasons, but the reason to invade Panama, because Noriega was a drugsdealer, was completely fake. The CIA knew for years he was one, even while he was on the payroll.

 That reminds me the case of Somoza. When a journalist stated to Pres. Rosevelt that Somoza was a " Son of a B... ", the President replied: Yes, but he is our Son of a B....
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Nov-2004 at 09:16
I am just too happy to see George W winning for the first time so that exists a possibility that he would be dumped disgracefully in the middle of the next term thanks to all the stupidities he has brilliantly caused so far.
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>President Bush has announced his plan to select Dr. W. David
>Hager to head up the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA)
>Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee. The committee
>has not met for more than two years, during which time its
>charter lapsed. As a result, the Bush Administration is
>tasked with filling all eleven positions with new members.
>This position does not require Congressional approval. The
>FDA's Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee makes
>crucial decisions on matters relating to drugs used in the
>practice of obstetrics, gynecology and related specialties,
>including hormone therapy, contraception, treatment for
>infertility, and medical alternatives to surgical procedures
>for sterilization and pregnancy termination. Dr. Hager, the
>author of "As Jesus Cared for Women: Restoring Women Then
>and Now." The book blends biblical accounts of Christ healing
>women with case studies from Hager's practice. His views of
>reproductive health care are far outside the mainstream for
>reproductive technology. Dr. Hager is a practicing OB/GYN
>who describes himself as "pro-life"
>
>and refuses to prescribe contraceptives to unmarried
>women.
>
>In the book Dr. Hager wrote with his wife, entitled
>"Stress and the Woman's Body," he suggests that women who
>suffer from premenstrual syndrome should seek help from
>reading the bible and praying. As an editor and contributing
>author of "The Reproduction Revolution: A Christian
>Appraisal of Sexuality Reproductive Technologies and the
>Family," Dr. Hager appears to have endorsed the medically
>inaccurate assertion that the common birth control pill is
>an abortifacient.

 

The average Republican may not as religious as they used to be, but the average republican politician is far more extreme.  Consider the ironoies of this when you look at the terrorists we are fighting, and how similair we are to them.
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Originally posted by Tobodai

Consider the ironoies of this when you look at the terrorists we are fighting, and how similair we are to them.

That's totally out of line to compare elected American politicians to mass-murdering terrorists.
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