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    Posted: 19-Sep-2006 at 06:33

At the beginning of the second millennium B.C. a runic alphabet consisting of 16 letters was already in existence in Flavia, a region in the north of Europe. It was used by Flavio populations and born out of the need to write down a Finnic language from which modern Finnish is derived.
When the Indo-Europeans arrived in Europe from the steppe, they did not have an alphabet and were not able to write!

In the second half of the second millennium B.C. the Germanici, a population of mixed Flavio-Steppico origin, began to use the Flavio runic script and to modify the pronunciation of some letters. Then they started to add letters to the end of the alphabet and then, finally, to insert others at other points in the alphabet. In total they added an tt. The Runes became an alphabet of 24 letters.  But as soon as the Germanici left, the Vikings went back to writing with a 16-letter alphabet which was congruent with their ancient phonology. Such a strange and drastic reduction of phonemes has so far been unexplained and inexplicable!

The Indo-Europeanists maintain that Indo-European was an [o] language, that became [a] language for a certain, proto-Germanico period, and then returned to being an [o] language in modern Germanic languages. The [a] period was a mutation brought about by the underlying Finnic substratum,  which did not have the [o]. For the same reason, in Flavia, the movable Indo-European accent became fixed on the first syllable.
When the Indo-Europeans arrived, the Finnics already knew not only how to write, but  even how to.... speak!!!

The phonology of ancient Europe was very limited, while that of the Indo-European newcomers was rich in aspirated and sonorous consonants.  Modern European phonology developed from the mixing of the languages of these two peoples: Flavii and Steppici.  This process was, however, incompatible with some of the laws of Indoeuropeanism.
One of Grimms laws for example was . just another of his fairy tales!

Before the arrival of the Indo-Europeans, Europe almost certainly had its own phonological homogeneity, if not a complete linguistic one, with the sole exception perhaps, of the Basque lands.

 

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http://linguistlist.org/pubs/papers/browse-papers-action.cfm?PaperID=8142
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Flavio? Who are they? Germanici as mixed Flavio-Steppico population? Why? Evidences? Unexplained phenomena? Why this theory then? Phonological homogenity, linguistic homogenity? Evidences, please.
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  Quote Boreasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Sep-2006 at 20:54
The phonetic alphabets was a great leap ahead in terms of effectivly describing the magnitudes and multitudes of this world. Though,  the specific SOUNDS were distinctivly created to cover all sounds needed to re-create ("write and read") the spoken language.  To get generally valid and yet effective, cognitive signs - the inventors of the first phonetic alphabeth would need a complete understanding of the cultural, historical and mythological implisit and explisit realms. Thus a comprehension of our IE culture and its mythos' is needed to get the etymologic impacts that - in turn - determine the semantic aspects of any known word, in the respective languages.
 
 
Now we also have a possible, new source of historic informatiin about the development of the alphabets - from a specific family-saga revealed in Finland as of 1984/85. Today known as the Bock-Saga it has been much debated, for obvious reasons. Though, besides being a big surprise and - per se - quite incredible, it is yet a stringent, logic and complete explanation of the basic etymology behind the European alphabet.
 
 
Antropologist Paul Knigthon was of the very first academians to have a serious look into this material,  in a very interesting, comparative study presented in his thesis at UCLA, 1995.
 
 
 
 
 


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  Quote Tske Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Oct-2006 at 19:52
SmileI belive that the alphabet derived from the egyptian hieroglyphics by simlefying the pictures. It can  be shown exectly in the Magyar runic letters
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  Quote perikles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Oct-2006 at 07:02
The grafic A is older than the Ierogliphics. And it is still not decoded
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Isn't the symbol "A" the upside down pictograph of a cow? like "B" is the one of a house? I read somewhere they came from hebrew and phoenician scripts and theirs names were "Aleph" and "Bet", which where translated to Greek into "Alpha" and "Beta".

Some people says the peoples of the Levante (Hebrews, Phoenicians, others) developed the alphabet from influencies of the symplified egyptian scripts for daily use.
 
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  Quote Knights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Nov-2006 at 07:39
I have heard somewhere that the origins of our (Enlgish) current alphabet lie somwhere in the Phoenicians around 1000BC. Does anyone have any further information (elaborating upon Wikipedia and the like) regarding the roots of today's english alphabet?
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  Quote Flipper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Nov-2006 at 16:36
Originally posted by pinguin


I read somewhere they came from hebrew and phoenician scripts and theirs names were "Aleph" and "Bet", which where translated to Greek into "Alpha" and "Beta".
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The Greek alphabet is said to have been introduced by a small Greaco-Phoenician tribe called Gefyraioi. The letter names and sequence are not random. Specifically it forms a prayer.


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  Quote perikles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Nov-2006 at 07:20
The letter A opposite it represents the head of the cow. Alpha means the ax, bufalo,cow. Sow we call the A alpha
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