Pro- Choice or Pro-Life?

Casual sex is something only whores and assholes participate in.

Why? If no one is gonna get hurt or a pregnancy that is not wanted ensues why is it so terrible to have casual sex?

Edited by New User - 06-May-2007 at 18:21

Edited by New User - 07-May-2007 at 00:27

i would rather die than let a rapist have the satisfaction of getting me pregnant.

Rapists generally don't get their satisfaction from getting a woman pregnant, in fact they don't get their satisfaction from the sexual act. It is the psychological domination that they get their satisfaction from, so in order for you to 'not let them have their satisfaction' you would have to come out of the incident with an intact psyche. Something that I don't believe I could do if I was raped.

Rape to me in the sense of it's relation to abortion is one of the worst situations a person can find themselves in. Because it's always a lose-lose scenario. Because if the woman chooses to terminate the pregnancy, not only does she have to go through the psychological trauma of the rape, but with the trauma of the abortion. Then there is the fact that a child was conceived that as a biological organism is hard-wired to want to live, and is a complete and utter innocent bystander in the whole series of events leading to it's destruction. Then if a woman chooses to give birth she has a daily reminder of the man who raped her.

This is why I believe that during times like that psychiatric health shouldn't be ignored. How can anyone have a safe and healthy abortion when your mental health is completely ignored in the procedure.

that you love to make love in an emotional partnership but when not in one enjoy a more casual physical experience.

Then why even get involved in emotional partnerships? If you still say the goal is to eventually end up in an emotional partnership, then how can you respect the person who your having sex with when your "in between" relationships. Having no respect for someone else makes you an asshole, having no respect for yourself and expressing that idea makes you a whore.

Oh and just to let you know the most emotional partnership in my life began with a casual physical experience, that doesn't mean I wasn't an asshole and she wasn't a whore.

Then why even get involved in emotional partnerships? If you still say the goal is to eventually end up in an emotional partnership, then how can you respect the person who your having sex with when your "in between" relationships. Having no respect for someone else makes you an asshole, having no respect for yourself and expressing that idea makes you a whore.

Oh and just to let you know the most emotional partnership in my life began with a casual physical experience, that doesn't mean I wasn't an asshole and she wasn't a whore.


Edited by New User - 07-May-2007 at 12:12

Originally posted by JanusRook I think you believe that sex is just something fun to do with another person, whereas I attach more personal meaning to the act. That's fine, we're just operating under different morals.

It almost sounds as if you're assuming some sort of moral superiority here, but I must be mistaken.

Originally posted by JanusRook And a lack of solid psychiatric care is one of the reason why I see it as a haphazard solution at best. I doubt this is seen as "necessary" in nations such as the United States and Britain (possibly Sweden though).

There are hardly any ideal solutions to a rape in any case. Let's leave it up to the victims to decide what is the best course of action for them shall we, and not force our own views, whatever they may be, onto them.

I don't know anyone who's had an abortion and not been offered psychiatric care both before, after and during the procedure. I can't speak for the US or Britain though (I live in Norway).

Originally posted by JanusRook And if their decision is that they want to kill themselves they should be allowed to do so, even if they weren't in the right state of mind. Or do you believe all depressed people should be allowed to kill themselves? (And I'm not suggesting all women become depressed after an abortion, I'm just saying some do.)

As you can't punish anyone for killing themselves I see neither the point nor any intelligent reasoning behind this post.

You should make a seperate thread for that as most women who have abortions hardly qualify as insane afterwards, so it doesn't really relate to the topic.

The experience of a woman after an abortion should not be trivialized. Most women don�t want to have an abortion, and most probably feel sorrow and regret. However, the statistics overwhelmingly refute claims that these women go on to suffer severe trauma. The predominant response to abortion is RELIEF and that is confirmed by dozens of studies which have researched women�s reactions to abortions. (Adler, 1975; Burnell, Dworsky & Harrington, 1972; Lazarus, 1985; Payne, Kravitz, Notman & Anderson, 1976; and Smith, 1973.

Both men and women suffer severe depression for many varying reasons - not primarily abortion. Loss of a family member, financial matters, loss of employment, bankruptcy, mental illness are just some of the reasons why people suffer depression. There are anti-depressant medications available to ease the stress, as well as therapy and rehab services available.

Again, I reiterate, legal and medically safe abortions should be afforded to ALL WOMEN who choose to have one. Women must always have that choice!