Balochistan - Start of civil war?

Originally posted by Sparten Vivek, the world you live and and the one that everyone else lives in are two very different dimensions which never overlap.

They do overlap. For my world is much bigger. We can have a discussion on this.

Vivek, the world you live and and the one that everyone else lives in are two very different dimensions which never overlap.

Originally posted by Vivek Sharma Even the baloochis are more of south Indian.

About the whole N.E.S.W. India thing above. Well North India and South India are distinguished by differences in languages. It is a linguistic-cultural region as is North India, it is not a geographical term.

When people refer to North India they mean the parts of India that predomanatly speak Indo-Eurpean languages such as Gujarati, Hindi, Mahrathi etc. When they say south they mean Dravidian languages such as Telugu, Kannada and Tamil.

Obviously Gujarat and Maharastra are central, but linguistically they are north.

Now back to Baluchistan, any further discussion of North/South India can be done in a separate post.

Yes. The Pakistanis trying applying the policy of divide & rule to their country. Well Learnt from the. 

Edited by Vivek Sharma - 10-Oct-2006 at 06:11

Why turn it by 45 degrees ? To prove your southish theory ? Then why not turn the whole of pakistan by another 90 degrees to make it south India. the brahui beople are south Indians after all.

And you could also turn the clock back by 59 years (not too far off from the no. 45 degrees) to  make the country called pakistan disappear from the map so that a more realistic picture of the sub continent could be presented. 

Originally posted by Vivek Sharma The above claim of yours is not bordering on foolishness & stupidity. It is in heart of these too traits. Please appreciate that I am trying to use politically correct language. Before making any claim or statement, do some homework or if you give me your address, I could mail you some kindergarten (K.G.) standard games of geography which are taught in schools here. So where are the rest of the figures? Maybe you could get them from the same source, which told you that Maharashtra, Gujarat & Bihar are southish !!!

Ok lets review some of the things you learned in kindergarten Vivek. North, South, East, West and of course Center.

The word southish does not belong here if you notice. Do keep that in mind, this implies(to an english speaker) that we are no longer dealing with kindergarten semantics any longer.

Now look at the map of the subcontinent.





Turn the map 45 degrees clockwise so that the bay of bengal almost becomes a southern sea of the east coastline. Now the NORTHWEST becomes the NORTH with pakistan, kashmir, punjab Himachal pradesh and parts of Rajistan and Gujrat as the "north" and the SOUTHWEST becomes the SOUTH.

Now from a cultural/genetic perspective perhaps you can appreciate what I mean by southish?

Coincidently this perspective one gets by rotating the subcontinent 45 degrees puts Balochistan in a much more northern place POLITICALLY(I want to stray back to the topic also...lets not talk to much about India in this thread). So perhaps you can now appreciate that the compass is not the only point of reference used when discussing geopolitics.

I.E. one of the reasons Balochistan is potentially unstable along with NWFP is because culturally and politically they are different from the rest of the subcontinent. Capiche?

Originally posted by maqsad Originally posted by Anujkhamar Well the GSDP per capita for the following states are: Tamil Nadu: Rs. 30416.75 Gujarat:       Rs. 33194.85 Maharastra: Rs. 34432.79 I think we all expected Maharstra to come on top, it is afterall the financial hub of India. You said the north had a higher GDP per capita. Maharashtra and Gujrat are middle/south. North would be UTTAR pradesh, himachal pradesh, panjab, haryana, kashmir etc would it not? South would be Madras and Tamil Nadu. Bihar is also southish of course. So where are the rest of the figures?

I agree Maharastra and Gujarat are middle (I actually would call them north-west), but they are north compared to Tamil Nadu.

Originally posted by maqsad Originally posted by Vivek Sharma In all terms the north leads the way. Most industrialized - Maharashtra, gujarat, haryana. GDP - Maharashtra, Gujarat, UP Per capita income GDP - Maharashtra, gujarat, haryana Per capita income  -  Haryana & Punjab Most industrialized & biggest city - Delhi, Bombay. I presume its not pure faith that makes you put Haryana and Panjab at the top? No, There is no need of faith here to support these two states. Their high income comes from their agricultural prosparity & some industrial developments. Actually those figures are kinda skewed because of the remittances from abroad pouring in But still a web page with all the states PCGDP would be interesting. Again you are wrong, these two states are not repatriation economies. Remittances are not a source of income here. They are so in the south Indian states, most prominantly Kerela.

Originally posted by Anujkhamar Well the GSDP per capita for the following states are: Tamil Nadu: Rs. 30416.75 Gujarat:       Rs. 33194.85 Maharastra: Rs. 34432.79 I think we all expected Maharstra to come on top, it is afterall the financial hub of India.

You said the north had a higher GDP per capita. Maharashtra and Gujrat are middle/south. North would be UTTAR pradesh, himachal pradesh, panjab, haryana, kashmir etc would it not? South would be Madras and Tamil Nadu. Bihar is also southish of course. So where are the rest of the figures?