In Balkans we have?

Yeah, yeah I knew you will post this. Look at my signature :) Genetics is not the only proof. It is the unswer to those greek friends who claim that they disapeared.

Edited by Anton - 31-Aug-2006 at 08:44

Originally posted by Anton Yeah, yeah I knew you will post this. Look at my signature :) Genetics is not the only proof. It is the unswer to those greek friends who claim that they disapeared.

Edited by akritas - 31-Aug-2006 at 08:49

Originally posted by akritas Originally posted by Anton Yeah, yeah I knew you will post this. Look at my signature :) Genetics is not the only proof. It is the unswer to those greek friends who claim that they disapeared. You signature mention Paeonians and not Thracians.Where tzetzes mention that?

Edited by Anton - 31-Aug-2006 at 09:06

Should I add Malala's mention that Ahiles is Bulgarian?  Again, those are your own scientists. You do not believe them? Why? 

Originally posted by Anton Relax boy (C) Cultural identity is cultural identity of the nation's roots.  The best way to prove roots is genetics.

I am relaxed. Relaxed and entertained. That last phrase of yours belongs to the nonsense hall of fame, and straight to the top too

Originally posted by Anton    As usuall, you are very argumentated.

Please don't get me wrong, it's just that I never expected to come across an argument like that.
What I'm saying is that, even if there is a hint of "Thracian DNA" in the modern Bulgarians (which I doubt anyway, but I don't care enough to discuss), it wouldn't mean you have inherited the thracian culture, because culture is not imprinted in the DNA.

On a lighter note...
As it's been already mentioned, all we know about the Thracians comes from the Greek historians' documentations and observations. If you trust us with what you consider your history, why don't you trust us now too?

Originally posted by Anton if you do not care do not mention that you have doubt.

I'll say whatever I want, thank you

How could the gothic words be explained?The gothic presence in the region of Albania didn't last long,whereas above the Danube they stayed for nearly two centuries.

The Goths stayed for ~ one century North of Danube. The same South of Danube.

How could the common words between Romanian and Albanian of non-latin origin be explained?I have read that the word fire is similar in the two languages.The romanians apart from the latin word have another one which is common with the Albanian.

There are many non-Latin words common in Romanian in Albanian, but the Latin-origin words in these two languages are of different sources. It's clear that the common heritage is of pre-Roman period.

The Thracian and the Illyrian languages can't have been similar because then the classification made by the ancient Greeks would not have any meaning.

Is true. But closeness existed. The Illyrians and Thracians lived in the today FYROM and Bulgaria and there was not boundary between them.


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Answering to older afirmations, I want say that most of the romanized (and even not romanized) Thracian and Illyrian population disapeared in the period of the invasions.
Check out these photocopies of a chapter from the book Byzantium and Bulgaria, a comparative study across the early medieval frontier by Robert Browning, University of California Press 1975:

http://savefile.com/files/15028
(if the download works slow try later).


I made the completion that the afirmation about Slav settlements in Moldavia, Wallachia and Transylvania is mostly wrong, the settlements discovered archaeologicaly belonged to the native, proto-Romanian population. The Slavic population was living in tents and was discovered in other places than the ones about Robert Browning have heard.
    
    

Edited by Menumorut - 31-Aug-2006 at 12:30

Originally posted by Anton Originally posted by akritas Originally posted by Anton Yeah, yeah I knew you will post this. Look at my signature :) Genetics is not the only proof. It is the unswer to those greek friends who claim that they disapeared. You signature mention Paeonians and not Thracians.Where tzetzes mention that?   I do not use it as a proof. But you too much frequently speak about nationality of the researcher. He said it in many times:   http://kroraina.com/NI/izvori/Ioan%20Tzetzes/105.jpg   So, according to your logic, since he is not bulgarian he is more true then those bulgarian genetists

Edited by akritas - 31-Aug-2006 at 14:03

Originally posted by akritas So according Tzentzes are you close to Peaonians and not to Thracians.