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Topic: Did Attila ever fight Sassanid persia? Posted: 02-Dec-2004 at 15:54 |
did he? And whats the outcome if he did. Or is there any political relationships
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YusakuJon3
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Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 19:52 |
He was never even near Sassanid Persia. The Huns at the time
(mid-5th Century AD) were primarily concentrated in the vicinity of
modern-day Hungary and were almost constantly in conflict with the
Romans and neighboring German and Slavic kingdoms. Attilla paid
almost exclusive attention to his ambitions concerning Rome.
However, an earlier faction of the Huns may have had contact with the
Sassanids. These were called the 'White Huns', and they conquered
the kingdom of Bactria centuries earlier en route
to leaving their mark in northern India. The kingdom of Kushan
(sp?) might have been a result of the Huns' settling down in the former
Bactrian territories.
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Posted: 20-May-2006 at 23:02 |
according to wikipedia he invaded armenia
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Posted: 21-May-2006 at 07:17 |
Originally posted by BigL
according to wikipedia he invaded armenia |
I think it whasnt Attilla himself, a division of Hun army did enter armenia and current day Azerbaijan and some even entered anatolia, but they wherent big in numbers.
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Posted: 21-May-2006 at 07:20 |
No, Attila never left Europe so far as anyone knows. Not all Huns were
under his command either, the Ephthalite Huns appear to have been an
autonomous group. Those Huns did engage in warfare with the Sassanids.
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Posted: 21-May-2006 at 08:28 |
The question about Atilla has already been answered. As for those
Huns who did come into conflict with Sassanid Persia, I think they were
also referred to as Nephtalite (sp?) and they indeed invaded
Sassanid territory from the direction of the former Bactria.
However, I believe that the Kushan dynasty then in control of the
region of Bactria originally came from a different tribe
(Hsiung-Nu?) often referred to as predecessors of the Huns.
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Posted: 21-May-2006 at 08:41 |
Attila's people came from the East, atop the Caspian - they scooped up Alans from the Caucasus into their cohorts - Huns were unable to penetrate Sassanid territory as it was well defended from the Caucasus, also Sassanids were familiar with the war tactics of the Huns, so they probably opted for the open and fruitful Roman Europe.
Hephtalites (aka White Huns): the question of whether they were actually a branch of THE Huns is cloudy as far as I know.
Edited by Zagros - 21-May-2006 at 08:41
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Posted: 21-May-2006 at 09:36 |
Originally posted by YusakuJon3
The question about Atilla has already been answered. As for those Huns who did come into conflict with Sassanid Persia, I think they were also referred to as Nephtalite (sp?) and they indeed invaded Sassanid territory from the direction of the former Bactria. However, I believe that the Kushan dynasty then in control of the region of Bactria originally came from a different tribe (Hsiung-Nu?) often referred to as predecessors of the Huns. |
The "White" Huns (Ephtalites) were a seperate group from Atilla's Huns.
The White Huns are thought to have originated in the Hindu-Kush/Pamirs and they did invade Bactria and took it from the Kushans, who were originally the Yueh-Chi (Tokharians). THe Hsiung Nu were the ones who displaced the Yue Chih originally and made them migrate in masse to outskirts of Bactria, where they eventually staged their invasion.
THe Origins of the White Huns varies from scholar to scholar. Grosset in his book "Empire of the Steppes" claims the White Huns were Mongoloid, while more modern research from Japanese and Russian scholars point to Indo-Scythic roots.
Edited by Afghanan - 21-May-2006 at 09:40
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Posted: 21-May-2006 at 19:01 |
Originally posted by BigL
according to wikipedia he invaded armenia |
Actually, contemporary Armenian historians have noted that the
Armenian general Vartan Mamikonian tried to contact Atilla asking him
to aid Armenia in its revolt against Sassanid Persia in 451.
Unfortunately Atilla was too busy with the Romans to be of any help.
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Posted: 21-May-2006 at 20:56 |
Did the Ephthalite Huns in anyway drain resources from the Sassanid's war against the Romans, and later the Arabs?
Were the conflict between them a one-off affair or was it a series of intrusions and withdrawals by the Huns?
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