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Topic: Do you know any rightist politician? Posted: 09-Aug-2006 at 17:55 |
tell me famous and good rigtist politician
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Maharbbal
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Posted: 09-Aug-2006 at 18:40 |
Well, here are some:
French Tocqueville, De Gaulle, Simone Veil, De Maistre, Clemenceau, Mirabeau Greek Most of the Greek politician would have been rightist nowadays England Tatcher, Churchill USA Nixon, Reagan, Giuliani, Milton Friedman (more a economist), Lincon Germany Kohl, Adenhauer
Nice bunch of successful rightists.
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Posted: 09-Aug-2006 at 22:24 |
The best rightist politican for the US was senator Barry Goldwater, the one who was famously defeated by LBJ with an attack ad claiming Goldwater would start nuclear war.
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Posted: 09-Aug-2006 at 22:46 |
Originally posted by Maharbbal
Well, here are some:
USA Nixon, Reagan, Giuliani, Milton Friedman (more a economist), Lincon
Nice bunch of successful rightists.
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-Giuliani is a moderate (he really only takes a conservative position on crime...not much else) and I dont believe Lincoln was a rightist either.....
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Posted: 10-Aug-2006 at 01:01 |
I agree they are both quiet liberal yet both are republicans. Giuliani is a supporter of Georges Bush which makes him a rightist at least by proxy. The same with H Kissinger, he is not properly rightist but still he supported a rightist government. The same again with Eisenhower.
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Posted: 10-Aug-2006 at 02:17 |
Do you consider liberals right-wing or left-wing?
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Posted: 10-Aug-2006 at 18:53 |
Originally posted by Feanor
Do you consider liberals right-wing or left-wing? |
right wing
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Posted: 10-Aug-2006 at 19:49 |
American Liberals or British Liberals?
American Liberals are free marketeers and very right wing.... British Liberals are intellectual freedomneers but market champaign socialists and considered neither left nor right but centrist.
Edited by Paul - 10-Aug-2006 at 19:49
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Posted: 10-Aug-2006 at 21:11 |
Australian Liberals are Conservatives, the opposite of a liberal
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Posted: 11-Aug-2006 at 07:33 |
You'd have to tell me what you mean by 'rightist'. I don't mind how you want to define it, but we have to first agree what we are talking about.
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Posted: 11-Aug-2006 at 09:24 |
Sure, my OD Management tutor was the Liberal Party member for one of
our city's seats for 7 years until she got voted out. Today she teaches
us about the finer points of corporate consulting.
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Posted: 17-Aug-2006 at 09:13 |
I think we should define rightist. Are you referring to Hard Right (Communism) vs. Hard Left (Fascism)? Or, are you thinking of something more mild like the American right (George Bush) and American left (Bill Clinton), for instance?
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Posted: 17-Aug-2006 at 15:38 |
Originally posted by BlackRaven135
I think we should define rightist. Are you referring to Hard Right (Communism) vs. Hard Left (Fascism)? |
It's the other way around.
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Posted: 17-Aug-2006 at 16:14 |
Originally posted by Feanor
Originally posted by BlackRaven135
I think we should define rightist. Are you referring to Hard Right (Communism) vs. Hard Left (Fascism)? |
It's the other way around.
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Posted: 17-Aug-2006 at 17:54 |
Those things come full circle. Hardcore fascism and hardcore communism are completelty indistinguishable.
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Posted: 18-Aug-2006 at 07:21 |
I think liberals are of right wing, the therm liberal is more to the market.
The last Spanish president Aznar was a good politician but his decision of suport Iraq invasion was so bad. But in other political themes like economics was very good, he had as a Economical Minister Rodrigo Rato, the actual president or FMI (IMF?)
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Posted: 18-Aug-2006 at 18:05 |
Originally posted by Maharbbal
Originally posted by Feanor
Originally posted by BlackRaven135
I think we should define rightist. Are you referring to Hard Right (Communism) vs. Hard Left (Fascism)? |
It's the other way around. |
Just depends where you are watching from... |
What are you talking about?
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Posted: 18-Aug-2006 at 18:10 |
Originally posted by Tobodai
Those things come full circle. Hardcore fascism and hardcore communism are completelty indistinguishable. |
Err, are you sure about that?
In a hardcore fascist system state is god, and in a hardcore communist system there is no state...
From my point of view Stalinist Soviet Russia was more like a mixture of fascism and socialism, never mind hardcore communism.
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Posted: 18-Aug-2006 at 23:22 |
well then there has never been a communist nation has there? They are all fascist. They start out on the left and then just move into totalitarian sphere.
So theres two options communism=fascism or communism=nonexistent!
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Posted: 21-Aug-2006 at 05:43 |
It's curious that all bad systems are of right wing and never the left have done anything bad. The extremes are all bad, right and left, lets see China or North Corea, they are Socialist and I prefer not to live under a system like that.
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