Do you know any rightist politician?

Cuba is a (partly) socialist state.

In the marxist doxa you have two stages. The first one known a dictatorship of the proletaria, where supposedly the workers overtake the bourgeois at the head of the state. The ownership of all instrument of production goes to the state. This phase is called socialist. Then after a while, the perfect moment arrives when no man lives to the expend of another one's labor. This new stage when the state is not needed any longer is called communism.

Of course all the so-called communist dictator completly forgot about the second stage (with the exception of Krutshov who once declared that the communist level was on sight). The point with excusing left wing totalitarism is that the dictator are seen as liars who have betrailed their word to bring every body to a better life. It goes without saying that this vision forgets that all the communist who ever hold the power turned into barbarian dictator soon after.

Considering Cuba the point is slightly different in the sens that Castro's regime was at first a fair answer to the lawless exploitation of the island by the American big companies and that the Socialist regime has achieved a fiew important goals (every body can read, every body eats, hospitals are available for all, there is much less racism against the blacks, etc...). Of course on the other hand the ability of getting richer through personal enterprise is nul, the army hold 80% of the exportation and the political rights are so to speak inexistant.

Yet Cuba has two excuses. The first one is that Eisenhower and Kennedy did everything they could to through the Leader Maximo into the USSR's arms by trying to overthrough his regime by force and to kill him at least 8 times. Plus one thing is for sure, when you consider the other islands of the area most of them are extremely poor (yet capitalist), or in the worst anarchy, or ruled by rightist dictator involved even more than Castro in the drug business.

To conclude, the leftist dictator have an avantage on their rightist counterpart, they pretend (and sometimes manage) to trade the people's political and economic rights for the fulfilling of their social needs. And finally they're cooler on the posters (who wants a poster of Franco in his room but the Che rocks).

M.

Originally posted by Barbarroja It's curious that all bad systems are of right wing and never the left have done anything bad. The extremes are all bad, right and left, lets see China or North Corea, they are Socialist and I prefer not to live under a system like that.

Originally posted by Paul American Liberals or British Liberals?   American Liberals are free marketeers and very right wing.... British Liberals are intellectual freedomneers but market champaign socialists and considered neither left nor right but centrist.

well then there has never been a communist nation has there? They are all fascist.  They start out on the left and then just move into totalitarian sphere.

Originally posted by Maharbbal Originally posted by Feanor Originally posted by BlackRaven135 I think we should define rightist. Are you referring to Hard Right (Communism) vs. Hard Left (Fascism)? It's the other way around. Just depends where you are watching from...

What are you talking about?
    

Those things come full circle.  Hardcore fascism and hardcore communism are completelty indistinguishable.

Originally posted by BlackRaven135 I think we should define rightist. Are you referring to Hard Right (Communism) vs. Hard Left (Fascism)?

It's the other way around.


    

Sure, my OD Management tutor was the Liberal Party member for one of our city's seats for 7 years until she got voted out. Today she teaches us about the finer points of corporate consulting.

Australian Liberals are Conservatives, the opposite of a liberal

Originally posted by Feanor Do you consider liberals right-wing or left-wing?