Historical maps of Macedonia

A map from Alexander's time.



A map from Samuil's time.



A map of United Macedonia in its historical and cultural borders.



A map of today's Macedonia :)

Greetings.

Nice electronical map from the wikipedia. Show clearly the ancient place names of the Macedonian Kingdom.

Edited by akritas - 01-Aug-2006 at 17:25

Originally posted by VMRO-1903 I would say your maps are nationalistic and chauvinistic.

Edited by akritas - 01-Aug-2006 at 17:47

Of course he is, and so are Caesar, Genghis Khan and George W. Bush! 
Now, really - Samuil was most probably indeed Macedonian. I mean that he was probably born in the region of Macedonia, so by region he was Macedonian, just as everyone now born in Plovdiv f.e. are Thracians and those in Vidin - Moesians. But by ethnicity all those three would usually be Bulgarians. And about Samuil it's more than clear that by ethnicity he was a Bulgarian king (with eventual Armenian ancestry from maternal side) and nowhere in the world-acknowledged history there's any other option!
I just can't stop wonder how some Maks try to show themselves in international history forums - don't they know that their "history" is accepted only in their own country and some things - not even there (afaik, oficially Alexander has nothing to do with today's Slavic Macedonians)! Well, at least they could give some materials for the Historical Amusement section (or, hopefully, some of them would show some real minds). Oh, and maybe we could see even more falsificates...

Originally posted by VMRO-1903 . (the 3rd one, i believe, was being made since the late 19th century, when the VMRO organization was formed)

Edited by akritas - 02-Aug-2006 at 13:38

Originally posted by Greek Hoplite Tell your goverment to become a part of Greece  because Macedonians are Greeks such as Peloponnisians,Epirotes,Thracians,Thessalians etc.

What a total barage of garbage. Macedonians are not and have never been Greek.

Regarding the claims that modern Macedonians are related to ancient Macedonians, I am willing to give them as much credit as to the claims that Bulgarians are related to the Thracians. It is my belief that Slavic Macedonians have been influenced and carry many of the features of Ancient Macedonians.

And finally regarding the dispute whether Samuil was a Macedonian or a Bulgarian, clearly he was a Bulgarian, as there is solid and undeniable evidence that he referred to himself as a king of Bulgaria. But one should not confuse the concept of medieval "Bulgaria" as an all-encompassing mutliethnic empire, and the concept of modern "Bulgaria" today as a narrow nation-state. As modern Bulgarians and modern Macedonians have both decended from the the people withing the Bulgarian empire, both can equally lay claims to Samuil, because he is part of the shared history of both Bulgarian and Macedonia.

Originally posted by bg_turk [ What a total barage of garbage. Macedonians are not and have never been Greek.

Edited by akritas - 02-Aug-2006 at 16:10

Originally posted by NikeBG First, ancient Macedons might have been Hellenistic or Hellenic. But today's Macedonians (as in the majority of them) have nothing to do with today's Greeks, unless the Greeks have actually became Slavs, as modern Macedonians are!

Edited by akritas - 02-Aug-2006 at 17:27