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    Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 06:48
"Dude, I asked you a question. I didn't say they've killed civilians in Northern Iraq...
So why do you think Turkey would kill civilians?"
 
Have you seen Lebanon? Israel is attacking Hezbollah but killing hundreds of civilians also...
They don't speak enough about the Kurds, because we have never taken hostages, never hijacked a plane. But I am proud of this.
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  Quote Mortaza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 06:52
Of course Kurds will help eachother Mortaza. Like Turkey is helping Turkmens in Iraq...
A terrorist in your eyes maybe a hero in mine.
 
So you accept Kurds support PKK? can you tell me why turkey should not backslash? your people are attacking Turkey, should we just watch?
 
 You are not making anysense. we can kill your civilians, but you cannot kill our terrorists is not an acceptable idea.
 
Zagros, what if they go futher? What if they start hitting civilians?
 
what If? In our situation There is not If, PKK is hitting our civilians. And you are saying, It is normal that kurds help pkk(kurds).
 
Sorry but If you realy care civilian life, you wont as If question, but you look for reality.(Our civilians are dying)
 
I would be totally oppose an attack like israel did, and I wont say Turks help Turks bullsh*t, but This is not Turkish style, Turkey entered iraq and not harmed civilians.
 
Our people live is more precious than your what If questions
 
 
 
 
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  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 06:55
Originally posted by Cent

"Dude, I asked you a question. I didn't say they've killed civilians in Northern Iraq...
So why do you think Turkey would kill civilians?"
 
Have you seen Lebanon? Israel is attacking Hezbollah but killing hundreds of civilians also...
 
No attacking Bridges, power stations, Airports and ports and homes with pin point accurate guided weapons is not taregting hezbollah.
 
Hezbollah are too strong for ISrael, they have forced Israel out, so ISrael puniches all lebanese.
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  Quote Mortaza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 06:56
Have you seen Lebanon? Israel is attacking Hezbollah but killing hundreds of civilians also...
 
well so what? Turkey is not israel. Israel attacked before, and civilian death happened before too.
 
you didnot still show me, civilian death at north iraq, because of Turkish army.
 
Instead of talking about probabity, why dont we talk about reality? People are killed at Turkey, and criminals were (acording to you they are protected by kurds) living at north iraq. What should we do? should we watch these criminals, because Israel killed civilians?


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  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 07:07
If Turkey or Iran were doing anything like what Israel is doing in Lebanon i would go and fight them myself.
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  Quote erkut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 11:23
Turkey is fighting against terorists!!! Actualy Turks want to live in peace but PKK dont let them to live in peace.
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  Quote Alborz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 14:57
The Iraq War is a Huge Success

The Economics of Creative Destruction


By Aseem Shrivastava
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In yet another, sinister, sense the war has been a remarkable success from Washingtons angle. It may succeed in dividing forever the three main communities in Iraq, Shia, Sunni and Kurds, enough to sustain the justification for a permanent US military presence in the country. Keeping a devastated nation on the brink of chaos may be part of a more or less conscious (if obviously secret) strategy to secure the long -- term benefits of military and economic occupation. This is an old -- divide and rule -- tactic of colonial powers, aimed at making the country ungovernable from within. The Americans have learnt it from the British. The logic was often given in the case of Hindus and Muslims in India by the British in the early part of the last century, Churchill always eager to point out that Indians will not be able to govern themselves in the absence of the British. All imperial powers are devilishly driven to create vacuums which they alone can occupy.
 
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  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 15:04
Yep and India and Pakistan have still not recovered from their exploitation.  Western Imperialism (Anglo-American- Israeli primarily) must be resisted by whatever means and wherever it rears its ugly and murderous head.

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  Quote Alborz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 15:07
I personally think Iraqi Kurds would be the dumbest idiots in history if they decide to separate from Iraq. They are way better off with Iraq than being an independent state with mountains to crawl around with.
 
but I fear the US would make them to it, even though that would be a huge disaster for iraqi kurds. and what a great plan that is.
 
Kurds should stay with Iraq and not to hook up with idiot PKK whos tribal mentality is unreliable.
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  Quote Digenis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 04:51
Originally posted by erkut

Turkey is fighting against terorists!!! Actualy Turks want to live in peace but PKK dont let them to live in peace.


These bad Kurds..
they don't want to live in this heaven of limited human rights ,under occupation...
They are insane.
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  Quote Lmprs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 05:30
Originally posted by Digenis


Originally posted by erkut

Turkey is fighting against terorists!!! Actualy Turks want to live in peace but PKK dont let them to live in peace.
These bad Kurds..they don't want to live in this heaven of limited human rights ,under occupation...They are insane.

Cheap sarcasm again?

He said PKK, not Kurds.


    
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  Quote Cent Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 05:52
Pkk had a ciesefire for many years. What did the Turkish goverment improve? Not a sh*t. Just small details. We need federalism.
They don't speak enough about the Kurds, because we have never taken hostages, never hijacked a plane. But I am proud of this.
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  Quote Suren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 07:14
today federalism for kurds will be indipendence at tomorrow.


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  Quote Mortaza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 07:20
Pkk had a ciesefire for many years. What did the Turkish goverment improve? Not a sh*t. Just small details. We need federalism.
 
 
Suprise, PKK is not figting for federation.
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  Quote Lmprs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 08:49
Originally posted by Cent

Pkk had a ciesefire for many years. What did the Turkish goverment improve? Not a sh*t. Just small details. We need federalism.

You need federalism? Well, you can do whatever you want in Sweden, I don't care.

As for PKK having a ceasefire for many years...

Well, they are still planting mines on roads. You only need to watch news in Turkey.

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  Quote Cent Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 08:57

I don't care about PKK. Give the people federalism.

They don't speak enough about the Kurds, because we have never taken hostages, never hijacked a plane. But I am proud of this.
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Originally posted by Cent

I don't care about PKK. Give the people federalism.



Hell, no. What do you need federalism for. Why is it impossible for you to live together with Turks? Why do you need to draw artificial boundaries?
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  Quote Mortaza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 12:15
Fedaration is not worst idea, Infact personaly I find it acceptable.
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  Quote bg_turk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 13:20
Originally posted by Mortaza

Fedaration is not worst idea, Infact personaly I find it acceptable.
 
What will be the boundaries of the federal republic of Kurdistan within Turkey? What will be its official language? Will it have the right to secede?
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What will be the boundaries of the federal republic of Kurdistan within Turkey?
 
the cities who want to enter  this  federation.
 
What will be its official language?
 
most probably both turkish and kurdish, or  only kurdish.
 
Will it have the right to secede?
 
why not? If they want to live with us, but I  hope and think,  they will not secede.
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