If Rome never existed

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Originally posted by Feanor [ I am pretty sure though, they felt they were superior to Celts or Germenics because of their different cultures.

hmmm.

Carthage would have dominated the area. probably. If they were REALLY enterprising, they might have conquered, allied with, or helped organize tha gauls. might have taken over-perhaps more in terms of cultural influence than conquest-france and perhaps even north europe.

Presumably wars between the middle east-Parthia, sassanids, pesians-and rome or greece might be replaced by wars between the middle east and the carthaginian-allied territories.

It's possible, since the carthaginians were very intensive sailors and traders, that the americas might have been discovered earlier-perhaps not by a huge amount, but there's already evidence that some phoenicians circumnavigated africa, and the americas aren't a great deal further than that.

and THAT might have resulted in a different picture of the americas as well-they might have had more chance (even with the fact that they would probably still get disease) to stay sovereign nations-which might have resulted in a hybrid fusion of cultures in the old world and the americas, each trading and learning from one another, and probably adopting pieces of culture, art, and science.

Granted, these can only ever be just educated guesses-but this kind of thing is a nice way to apply the knowledge about cultural and technological trends and human nature procured by studying history to solve a sort of puzzle.

people often get too preoccupied with LEARNING history, and not enough with USING it. A mental puzzle like this is a way to combat that tendency.

Originally posted by Zenobia If Rome never existed we would not be even close to where we are now. Christianity would not have progressed.

If Rome had never existed, Spain would have remained as a part of the Carthagian Empire. Hispania had never existed. Spanish language wouldn't have developed, and Latin America would have a semitic name, I guess. In the east, the Bizantine Empire had not existed and Russia would not have an orthodox heritage. Lot of things would have been different, indeed.

Originally posted by sponge Originally posted by YusakuJon3 Without a Rome, I'd think that Hellenistic kingdoms would persist in the Middle East and resume their ancient feud with the Iranians (ala the Parthians and Sassanid Persia)  before taking the brunt of Mohammed's Islam.    An Islam without Christianity in power doesn't seem much likely because multinational monotheism began with Christianity.    But there is another scenario: Etruscans ruled the Rome in its primeval stage. Without Rome they wouldn't fall from power and would continue expanding further south expelling Greeks. Later stages may have been a replica of RE. In such a scenario there may not be much difference from Romans' considering their similar culture.

Edited by ZEUS10 - 19-Jul-2007 at 16:42

It's very interesting,that of history-fiction.

Edited by Carles - 17-Jul-2007 at 18:10

If it wasn't Rome - it would have been Carthage.

If Rome had never existed then......:

If Rome never existed we would not be even close to where we are now. Christianity would not have progressed. The literature and mathematics and music and art and everything Rome gave us would be gone. Many of us would still live in our little villages, speaking different languages in each one. Without communication, we would have a measly society.