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    Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 04:32
What do you know about (aine Mehr) Mehr religion. 
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Mehr=Mithra & Mehr Religion=Mithraism, what do you want to know?

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  Quote Afghanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 21:51
I had an Iranian friend who changed their last name to Mehr.
 
Quick question:  Does "Mehr" have to do with the word "Mehraban"
 
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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2006 at 10:37

Of course, Mehrban (Mithra+Pan) = "Mehr Keeper", as you know Mehr also means "Affection" in Persian, so Mehrban means "Affectionate/Kind".

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  Quote Vedam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Jul-2006 at 08:48

If its of any interest, the Indian counterpart of Mithra is Mitra.

He is the deity that presides over friendship and oaths in the Vedas.

Even today in India the word for friend is Mitr.
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  Quote azimuth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2006 at 10:08
wasnt one of the last Iranian Shah's title Shahnshah Arya mehr? what does mehr mean in that title?
 
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it means light of aryan. so mehr mean light too.


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India Mitra/Maitreya, Iran Mithra, Roma Mithras, Armenia Meher, Mirsa.

Mithra (sun, air, light, truth, friend) may be connected with any/either of:

Greek Aether (upper air);
Akkad Mesaru (righteousness/justice);
Sumer Enmesarra?
Biblical Mizraim;
Phoenician Mishor;
Egyptian Osiris?
Babylon Makhir (revelation/dreams);
Greek Mestor?

(Mesaru & Kittu = Mishor & Sydyk ~ Osiris & Set (cp Mitra & Varuna).)

Slayer of the primeval bull Gosh ("Taurus").

Born from a cave/"rock" like Jesus Christ born in "stable" or rather  resurrected from "tomb".

Mithraism derives from Zoroastrianism (and pre-Zoroastrian paganism).
A mystery religion with 7 stages of initiation.


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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2006 at 12:41
Mehr (Mithra) doesn't mean light but it is in fact the God of light, love and friendship in Iranian mythology.

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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 16:25
Originally posted by Vedam

If its of any interest, the Indian counterpart of Mithra is Mitra.

He is the deity that presides over friendship and oaths in the Vedas.

Even today in India the word for friend is Mitr.
 

Indian and Iranian Mithra share the same name but doesnt look like they are the same character. On the other hand Jesus and Iranian Mithra dont share the same name but they probably are the same character.

 

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  Quote Vedam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 17:14
Indian Mitra and Iranian Mithra share the same name because they are originally the same deity. An Indo/Iranian deity that belongs to the Ahura/Asura class.
In both cultures they originally have the same characteristics, that is presiding over Treaties, contracts, freindship.
 
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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 17:26
true, but the key word in there is "origionally"
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  Quote Vedam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jul-2006 at 05:13
Originally posted by Miller

true, but the key word in there is "origionally"
 
What you must remember is to distinguish which "Mitra/ Mithra/Mithras you are refering to.
There is Mitra of the Vedas that the Indo-aryans worshipped, the Iranic counterpart of Mithra that the ancient Iranians have in  both pre-Zoarastian and post-Zoarastian religion, and Mithras that became a Roman cult, after its introduction from western Iranic groups, and incorporated new elements.
 


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  Quote Arthur-Robin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jul-2006 at 20:08
Miller/Vedam:
(1) Hinduism/Vedic, Zoroastrianism/Mithraism, Roman, Xtianity each 'In' with others 'Out',
(2) Hindu, Zoro, Rom, Xtian all ultimately from one common original,
(3) There are ultimately only two "dualistic" sides, so which is (true and which is) each one on (according to themselves and according to the others) (tho the 2 lines/sides also run thru/within them (between sects/denominations) not just between them).

2 lines in Hindu:
Kshatriyas - Brahmins;
Deva - Asura;
Arya - Dasyu;
Surya - Chandra;
Brahman - Abrahm;
Yoni - Linga;

2 lines in Zoroastrianism:
Ashavan - Drugvan;
Arya - Turia;
Ahura/Amesha Spentas - Devas;

2 lines in Xtianity:
Adam - Enosh
Tree Life - Tree Knowledge
Abel - Cain
Seth - Cain
Eden - Nod
angel - demon
God/YHWH - Devil/Satan
Shem - Japheth
Yhwh - El
8th day man - 6th day man
Eve - Lilith
Abram - Lot
Isaac - Ishmael
Israel/Jacob - Esau/Edom
Ephraim - Manasseh
Rehoboam - Jeroboam
Judah - Israel
Adam - Serpent
cupbearer - baker
Lucifer - Satan
sons of light - sons of darkness
Mosaic - Obic
David - Saul
donkey - pig
ears - eyes
spirit - flesh
Jn - synoptic
Jesus - John
Setian - Ophite
Protestant - Catholic
(seed) woman - (seed) serpent
Jerusalem - Babylon
Peleg - Joktan
Heaven - Hell
Heaven - Earth
good - evil
Pharisees - Saducees
Michael - Apollyon
Michael - Lucifer
Jew - Gentile
Lazarus - Dives
[wheat] - tares
sheep - goats
rock - sand
Abe's bosom - hell
Abrahm - Brahm
Jew - Arab
wise - fool
love - lust
free - slave
Eve - animals
Zion - Sion
David - Solomon
Mordechai - Haman
Melchizedek - Levite
Paul - Saul
Israel - Jacob
Abraham - Abram
Samson - Delilah
Sarah - Hagar
Shem - Ham
Noah - [Nor/Nir]
right - left
Jesus - Lucifer
cross - rose
lamb - dragon
white - black

2 lines in Roman:
Romulus - Remus;
west - east;
Dionysian - Apollonian;
Athens - Sparta;
Athens - Atlantis;
Mykenae - Troy;
spirit/soul - body;
Olympians - Titans;
gods - giants;
Epicurean - Stoic;
Zeus - Typhon;
Plato/Pythagoras - Aristotle;
Uranus - Gaia;
Hellene - Pelasgian.

(Note: some may be dialectic/anti-dualist rather than/as well as dualistic.)

Many try to lump "dualistic" Zoroastianism and "neurotic" Roman and Xtianity together, but I agree with others that Xtianity is distinct from all other pagan religions.


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  Quote Jay. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jul-2006 at 22:52
Wikipedia says Mehr means sun and love. Mehr is also the first month of autumn in the Iranian calender.
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  Quote Arthur-Robin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 06:03
who was Mihrage in Sindbad the Sailor: "greater than Solomon and Mihrage"?
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  Quote Afghanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 13:40
In Pashto and also in Persian, Mar means sun/sunlight.
 
There was also a Ephtalite king by the name of "Mehr-Kula"  Contrary to the word Mehr, he was known to be rather ruthless and enjoyed watching Elephants thrown off cliffs for amusement.  :)
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the (n-)m-r word relating to sun/light may be connected with word for morning?
a number of diff cultures had m-r sun god/dess names.
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  Quote kambizs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Jun-2012 at 16:12
Mehr religion is not as same as Mithraism
Mithraism comes from the time of Ashkanian but Mehr Religion is from 6 or 8 thousand years ago wich was firs religion before of Zoroastrianism. 
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Jun-2012 at 19:14
Are you saying Mithraism was an offshoot of the Mehr religion?
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