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Topic: Mehr Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 04:32 |
What do you know about (aine Mehr) Mehr religion.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 15:29 |
Mehr=Mithra & Mehr Religion=Mithraism, what do you want to know?
Ancient Temple of Mithra, London, England
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Posted: 23-Jul-2006 at 21:51 |
I had an Iranian friend who changed their last name to Mehr.
Quick question: Does "Mehr" have to do with the word "Mehraban"
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Posted: 24-Jul-2006 at 10:37 |
Of course, Mehrban (Mithra+Pan) = "Mehr Keeper", as you know Mehr also means "Affection" in Persian, so Mehrban means "Affectionate/Kind".
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Posted: 25-Jul-2006 at 08:48 |
If its of any interest, the Indian counterpart of Mithra is Mitra.
He is the deity that presides over friendship and oaths in the Vedas.
Even today in India the word for friend is Mitr.
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Posted: 26-Jul-2006 at 10:08 |
wasnt one of the last Iranian Shah's title Shahnshah Arya mehr? what does mehr mean in that title?
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it means light of aryan. so mehr mean light too.
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Posted: 26-Jul-2006 at 12:15 |
India Mitra/Maitreya, Iran Mithra, Roma Mithras, Armenia Meher, Mirsa.
Mithra (sun, air, light, truth, friend) may be connected with any/either of:
Greek Aether (upper air); Akkad Mesaru (righteousness/justice); Sumer Enmesarra? Biblical Mizraim; Phoenician Mishor; Egyptian Osiris? Babylon Makhir (revelation/dreams); Greek Mestor?
(Mesaru & Kittu = Mishor & Sydyk ~ Osiris & Set (cp Mitra & Varuna).)
Slayer of the primeval bull Gosh ("Taurus").
Born from a cave/"rock" like Jesus Christ born in "stable" or rather resurrected from "tomb".
Mithraism derives from Zoroastrianism (and pre-Zoroastrian paganism). A mystery religion with 7 stages of initiation.
Edited by Arthur-Robin - 26-Jul-2006 at 12:39
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Posted: 26-Jul-2006 at 12:41 |
Mehr (Mithra) doesn't mean light but it is in fact the God of light, love and friendship in Iranian mythology.
Edited by Cyrus Shahmiri - 26-Jul-2006 at 12:45
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Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 16:25 |
Originally posted by Vedam
If its of any interest, the Indian counterpart of Mithra is Mitra.
He is the deity that presides over friendship and oaths in the Vedas.
Even today in India the word for friend is Mitr. |
Indian and Iranian Mithra share the same name but doesnt look like they are the same character. On the other hand Jesus and Iranian Mithra dont share the same name but they probably are the same character.
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Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 17:14 |
Indian Mitra and Iranian Mithra share the same name because they are originally the same deity. An Indo/Iranian deity that belongs to the Ahura/Asura class.
In both cultures they originally have the same characteristics, that is presiding over Treaties, contracts, freindship.
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Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 17:26 |
true, but the key word in there is "origionally"
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Posted: 28-Jul-2006 at 05:13 |
Originally posted by Miller
true, but the key word in there is "origionally" |
What you must remember is to distinguish which "Mitra/ Mithra/Mithras you are refering to.
There is Mitra of the Vedas that the Indo-aryans worshipped, the Iranic counterpart of Mithra that the ancient Iranians have in both pre-Zoarastian and post-Zoarastian religion, and Mithras that became a Roman cult, after its introduction from western Iranic groups, and incorporated new elements.
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Posted: 28-Jul-2006 at 20:08 |
Miller/Vedam: (1) Hinduism/Vedic, Zoroastrianism/Mithraism, Roman, Xtianity each 'In' with others 'Out', (2) Hindu, Zoro, Rom, Xtian all ultimately from one common original, (3) There are ultimately only two "dualistic" sides, so which is (true and which is) each one on (according to themselves and according to the others) (tho the 2 lines/sides also run thru/within them (between sects/denominations) not just between them).
2 lines in Hindu: Kshatriyas - Brahmins; Deva - Asura; Arya - Dasyu; Surya - Chandra; Brahman - Abrahm; Yoni - Linga;
2 lines in Zoroastrianism: Ashavan - Drugvan; Arya - Turia; Ahura/Amesha Spentas - Devas;
2 lines in Xtianity: Adam - Enosh Tree Life - Tree Knowledge Abel - Cain Seth - Cain Eden - Nod angel - demon God/YHWH - Devil/Satan Shem - Japheth Yhwh - El 8th day man - 6th day man Eve - Lilith Abram - Lot Isaac - Ishmael Israel/Jacob - Esau/Edom Ephraim - Manasseh Rehoboam - Jeroboam Judah - Israel Adam - Serpent cupbearer - baker Lucifer - Satan sons of light - sons of darkness Mosaic - Obic David - Saul donkey - pig ears - eyes spirit - flesh Jn - synoptic Jesus - John Setian - Ophite Protestant - Catholic (seed) woman - (seed) serpent Jerusalem - Babylon Peleg - Joktan Heaven - Hell Heaven - Earth good - evil Pharisees - Saducees Michael - Apollyon Michael - Lucifer Jew - Gentile Lazarus - Dives [wheat] - tares sheep - goats rock - sand Abe's bosom - hell Abrahm - Brahm Jew - Arab wise - fool love - lust free - slave Eve - animals Zion - Sion David - Solomon Mordechai - Haman Melchizedek - Levite Paul - Saul Israel - Jacob Abraham - Abram Samson - Delilah Sarah - Hagar Shem - Ham Noah - [Nor/Nir] right - left Jesus - Lucifer cross - rose lamb - dragon white - black
2 lines in Roman: Romulus - Remus; west - east; Dionysian - Apollonian; Athens - Sparta; Athens - Atlantis; Mykenae - Troy; spirit/soul - body; Olympians - Titans; gods - giants; Epicurean - Stoic; Zeus - Typhon; Plato/Pythagoras - Aristotle; Uranus - Gaia; Hellene - Pelasgian.
(Note: some may be dialectic/anti-dualist rather than/as well as dualistic.)
Many try to lump "dualistic" Zoroastianism and "neurotic" Roman and Xtianity together, but I agree with others that Xtianity is distinct from all other pagan religions.
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Posted: 29-Jul-2006 at 22:52 |
Wikipedia says Mehr means sun and love. Mehr is also the first month of autumn in the Iranian calender.
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Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 06:03 |
who was Mihrage in Sindbad the Sailor: "greater than Solomon and Mihrage"?
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Posted: 30-Jul-2006 at 13:40 |
In Pashto and also in Persian, Mar means sun/sunlight.
There was also a Ephtalite king by the name of "Mehr-Kula" Contrary to the word Mehr, he was known to be rather ruthless and enjoyed watching Elephants thrown off cliffs for amusement. :)
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Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 01:25 |
Afghanian the (n-)m-r word relating to sun/light may be connected with word for morning? a number of diff cultures had m-r sun god/dess names.
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 at 16:12 |
Mehr religion is not as same as Mithraism Mithraism comes from the time of Ashkanian but Mehr Religion is from 6 or 8 thousand years ago wich was firs religion before of Zoroastrianism.
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Posted: 19-Jun-2012 at 19:14 |
Are you saying Mithraism was an offshoot of the Mehr religion?
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